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Küldte Professor Adog, 02.10.2014 - 13:18
I made this for any noob, who says "let him play what he wants". Just so you know, we don't have to keep explaining over and over again then argue with these illogical people - or maybe just ignorant.

  • "Just let them play what they want" - No just no. Because it's not just about him losing, no one cares if he loses. If it's a team game ( for me generally it is ) then you ruin the chance for your entire team. If it's a colonial game, you fuck up the balance by losing by turn 5. Stop picking large countries because you think they are immortal, they aren't when people like you play them.

  • "Rank doesn't mean anything" - No but it's a good indicator, if you've done economics, Nominal GDP is an indicator of economic growth. Of course there are shit high ranks but that is like inflation (rank inflation from playing RP or other farming ) and so it does not show Real GDP, i.e. real economic growth or real skill. Ranks show skill, because of experience, "The only source of knowledge is experience." ~ Albert Einstein.

  • "If you don't let them play big countries they can never get the skill to get better" - nope not true. If you want to play a big country, host a private game and practice with it. "You cannot create experience. You must undergo it." ~ Albert Camus. If you think we will sacrifice the integrity of the game just to let a random low rank who will probably wallfuck and leave, play then you sir are just cuckoo.

  • "You kicked me, there's nothing left to pick apart from USA and Germany" - Sorry but first come first serve. It's very simple.

  • "Rankists are all assholes" - We're not, we are trying to have a BALANCED game here. I don't know if you quite understand balance if you play too much tempted rp, but there you go. I don't understand why this is an issue, when I was a small rank I picked small countries. So why don't you learn to do that too?

  • "Some high ranks are noobs" - Apart from Mellish (no offence but you don't really wall man) they farmed in RP, and guess what people like TheRomanWarrior etc. are in our enemylists or are known for their bad game-play in competitive games. We generally don't let them in.


Thanks , also for the low ranks out there, I have a new policy. I'll let you play, you fail and you receive 1 month ban or it could be less. Next time you try to play, it will be double that if you fail. Got it? [By failing I mean picking a big country and dying in 5 turns] If you pick a small country this does not apply, and by accepting this bet you can't say afterwards it's an unfair ban. You understood the consequences.

And just to slip another quote in "Experience is the teacher of all things." ~Julius Caesar
13.11.2014 - 02:24
Black Shark
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>tfw the posts where I explained to Clovis that people use the word Impossible to exagerate are gone
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13.11.2014 - 07:14
Általa írva Guest, 13.11.2014 at 02:24

>tfw the posts where I explained to Clovis that people use the word Impossible to exagerate are gone


Clovis is know for deleting and editing his posts (even if quoted) because he doesn't want people to call his bullshit out.

In this topic, clovis has edited multiple of the posts way after i quote them, just to look as if don't address his dumb statements.
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13.11.2014 - 18:42
Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 18:06

Általa írva Guest, 13.11.2014 at 02:24

>tfw the posts where I explained to Clovis that people use the word Impossible to exagerate are gone


Nice lie. LOL

Wonder why the topic got removed. Maybe someone called MOU reported it

But I ask you the same: Where was the word "exagerating" in your reply?

Nonwhere, correct?

Thanks you. No more explaination needen.

(But if you want to manipulate words then I'd just ignore it).

On topic: Tunder your argument have not only been proved wrong but also destroyed. You tried so many times to call the second group "rank 10" when they actually were rank 11.

Why? because you wanted the people to confuse them. Now plz go away u lost.

#REMOVE RANKISM


>my argument
>being about your list

Lol its clear that you weren't paying attention

My argument is that turns played have a direct relationship with rank and experience.
After i provided you with overwhelming evidence that supports my claim, you started ignoring my statements.

You claimed rank doesn't matter at all. Prove it. Were is the evidence? Address the statements that i posted over and over again, because you love to ignore them.

Your 2nd list is composed of random people, with over 500k sp in so difference lol, its horrendously irrelevant.

>me, losing
Sorry but no, you lost the moment you told jaredb and black sharck (native english speakers) that you have "better" english skills than them.
And then lost again when you said games are related to experience
And again when your data was proven to be random and irrelevant
And again when you lied about me, and your accusations were proven to be false
And again when you ignored my argument
And again when you ignored jaredbs argument
And again when you were proven to be a idiot in the topic about probability

Like really, don't you get tired of having your weak claims proven false?


So like really, in a debate both sides are suppose to provide edidence, specially the person with orthodox and extreme claims, you have provided no valid evidence what so ever.
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13.11.2014 - 19:00
> Call my list random

They were the top 5 rank 10 players. You are just trying to confuse them with my second group. Sorry it wont happen.

My data is correct. You can search for it now, probably some minor charges since time has passed.

Therefore, you are wrong.

>Your data correct<

Your data is incomplete. There is nobody from 50-63 there, where you can find a lot of irregularity. You as well tried to generalize somenthing were

>Jared and BlackShark native english<

Who cares? He can be billgate and I can be an user, if I tell billgate that window is bad because in no part it say "reboot", then it is bad.

(And how that they are native languages influences on this, anyway? You cannot prove a relation between IQ and language). (Nice scarecrowing, I never incluided jared on this.)( And Nice scarecrowing better skills english. Dont make me laugh. Proof or never happen, and I dont accept words manipulation.)

And when you cannot win, you want to say I used ad hominem? JUST LOOK AT YOU LOL. Nice attempt to lock this.


This is the cronology of your fails:

1) Enter to the post, directly attacking my argument.
2) Ignored my clarification for keep trolling and attacking me.
3) Ignored my assumption. At this point and since you ignored, you are supporting adog.
4) You are supporting jared's argument at this point.
5) You state somenthing: There is a direct relation between turns and rank. This of couse, without incluide the statics.
6) Your fact is proven wrong. There is no direct relation between turns and rank. The statics proven you to be a liar.
7) You bring here manipulated statics.
8) You accused ALL my statics to be wrong. This, without attack the direct group which you first accepted as true, for ignore it later.
8) Your statics are proven wrong. There is a big jump from 50-63 which you didnt adressed.
9) When you say my statics are random, you are just agreeing with me since I was the first one in categorize them as "others". In other words, random.

(Some pages of clarifications and words manipulation...)

10) You say you never related rank to skills.
11) You are, again, proven not only wrong but also proven to be trolling since you dont even know what you are arguing about.
12) You lose.

Nothing constructive was made since point 9 (page 2). The argument was over long ago when you were proven:

1) Liar - bringing here facts without any kind of static for back up.
2) Manipulation - excharging and clarificating your words on your own.
3) Troll - You dont even know what you are arguing about. You support both adog and jared yet you dont support them now,
4) Mind cleaner - You are making BlackShark to excharge his words, too. So they fit with you.


#REMOVE RANKISM
#YOU LOST TUNDER, YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SUPPORTING.
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14.11.2014 - 00:07
Black Shark
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Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 18:06

Általa írva Guest, 13.11.2014 at 02:24

>tfw the posts where I explained to Clovis that people use the word Impossible to exagerate are gone


Nice lie. LOL

Wonder why the topic got removed. Maybe someone called MOU reported it

But I ask you the same: Where was the word "exagerating" in your reply?

Nonwhere, correct?

Thanks you. No more explaination needen.

(But if you want to manipulate words then I'd just ignore it).


On topic: Tunder your argument have not only been proved wrong but also destroyed. You tried so many times to call the second group "rank 10" when they actually were rank 11.

Why? because you wanted the people to confuse them. Now plz go away u lost.

#REMOVE RANKISM
Well actually I FORGOT to put the word there. But my argument has not been disproven, people use the word impossible to exaggerate. When I say ''this is impossible to beat '' in a game I actually mean ''this is too hard FOR ME.'' In fact the truth is that I mean I just don't have the skills to beat the level.

Impossible means ''won't happen EVER''

The word you're looking for (thanks to the guy who reminded me) is IMPROBABLE

ggulost

P.S. I told you that I forgot to put the word there before.
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14.11.2014 - 00:13
Black Shark
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Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 19:00

> Call my list random

They were the top 5 rank 10 players. You are just trying to confuse them with my second group. Sorry it wont happen.

My data is correct. You can search for it now, probably some minor charges since time has passed.

Therefore, you are wrong.

>Your data correct<

Your data is incomplete. There is nobody from 50-63 there, where you can find a lot of irregularity. You as well tried to generalize somenthing were

>Jared and BlackShark native english<

Who cares? He can be billgate and I can be an user, if I tell billgate that window is bad because in no part it say "reboot", then it is bad.

(And how that they are native languages influences on this, anyway? You cannot prove a relation between IQ and language). (Nice scarecrowing, I never incluided jared on this.)( And Nice scarecrowing better skills english. Dont make me laugh. Proof or never happen, and I dont accept words manipulation.)

And when you cannot win, you want to say I used ad hominem? JUST LOOK AT YOU LOL. Nice attempt to lock this.


This is the cronology of your fails:

1) Enter to the post, directly attacking my argument.
2) Ignored my clarification for keep trolling and attacking me.
3) Ignored my assumption. At this point and since you ignored, you are supporting adog.
4) You are supporting jared's argument at this point.
5) You state somenthing: There is a direct relation between turns and rank. This of couse, without incluide the statics.
6) Your fact is proven wrong. There is no direct relation between turns and rank. The statics proven you to be a liar.
7) You bring here manipulated statics.
8) You accused ALL my statics to be wrong. This, without attack the direct group which you first accepted as true, for ignore it later.
8) Your statics are proven wrong. There is a big jump from 50-63 which you didnt adressed.
9) When you say my statics are random, you are just agreeing with me since I was the first one in categorize them as "others". In other words, random.

(Some pages of clarifications and words manipulation...)

10) You say you never related rank to skills.
11) You are, again, proven not only wrong but also proven to be trolling since you dont even know what you are arguing about.
12) You lose.

Nothing constructive was made since point 9 (page 2). The argument was over long ago when you were proven:

1) Liar - bringing here facts without any kind of static for back up.
2) Manipulation - excharging and clarificating your words on your own.
3) Troll - You dont even know what you are arguing about. You support both adog and jared yet you dont support them now,
4) Mind cleaner - You are making BlackShark to excharge his words, too. So they fit with you.


#REMOVE RANKISM
#YOU LOST TUNDER, YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SUPPORTING.
Did... did say that you speak better English? English is my first language, I was born in America, raised in America, and had English speaking people all around me.
I'm not the best at English but damn right better than you are.

If the user is too dumb to release what he did wrong with his OS than Bill Gates is not entitled to compsensating him for deleting system 32
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14.11.2014 - 05:30
Általa írva Guest, 14.11.2014 at 00:13


Did... did say that you speak better English? English is my first language, I was born in America, raised in America, and had English speaking people all around me.
I'm not the best at English but damn right better than you are.

If the user is too dumb to release what he did wrong with his OS than Bill Gates is not entitled to compsensating him for deleting system 32


Nice fall on Tunder's scarecrowing. He cannot prove that I say it.

Off Topic: AMERICA IS A CONTINENT, NOT A COUNTRY. SCREW YOU ( Nice ad hominen btw).

Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 19:00

>Jared and BlackShark native English<

Who cares? He can be billgate and I can be an user, if I tell billgate that window is bad because in no part it say "reboot", then it is bad.

(And how that they are native languages influences on this, anyway? You cannot prove a relation between IQ and language). (Nice scare-crowing, I never included jared on this.)( And Nice scare-crowing better skills english. Don't make me laugh. Proof or never happen, and I don't accept words manipulation.)




Maybe he try to use the fact that I told you to stop manipulating your words, which is true. There is no "exaggerating" word in your reply. You forgot? Nice lie.

Serious I will just ignore your last reply. You are obvious trying to manipulate the words.

The dictionary is my proof. It point one of the definitions as "Extremely hard". Tunder lost. Stop defending him pls.

EDIT: Just for prove somenthing irrelevant: The topic still exist, it didnt got deleted. Nice lie, tunder. http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=16411
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14.11.2014 - 08:01
Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 19:00

1) Enter to the post, directly attacking my argument.

Nope


Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 19:00

3) Ignored my assumption. At this point and since you ignored, you are supporting adog.

I addressed your assumption before i even started with my own argument

Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 19:00

4) You are supporting jared's argument at this point.

I already told you this, but you choose to ignore it

Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 19:00

5) You state somenthing: There is a direct relation between turns and rank. This of couse, without incluide the statics.


So the rank 7 with most sp, compared to a rank 10 with the least turns played is fake? Prove it

Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 19:00

6) Your fact is proven wrong. There is no direct relation between turns and rank. The statics proven you to be a liar.


Prove it, go and take the amount of turns played by any rank 6 with premium, and compare it to the turns played of a rank 10

Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 19:00

7) You bring here manipulated statics.


Prove it



Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 19:00

8) You accused ALL my statics to be wrong. This, without attack the direct group which you first accepted as true, for ignore it later.


I addressed your list a long time ago, go read my response.


Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 19:00

8) Your statics are proven wrong. There is a big jump from 50-63 which you didnt adressed.


Is not wrong, i just choose a small sample group, is not like i have the time to line up all players than have few sp in difference that have premium.

Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 19:00

9) When you say my statics are random, you are just agreeing with me since I was the first one in categorize them as "others". In other words, random.


Good job, you admitted they are random
My list is not random, i picked people that have less few sp in difference. Gg clovis


Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 19:00

10) You say you never related rank to skills.
11) You are, again, proven not only wrong but also proven to be trolling since you dont even know what you are arguing about.
12) You lose.


I never related rank to skill
I related rank to experience and turns played.

Nice false accusations.
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14.11.2014 - 11:03
Black Shark
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Általa írva clovis1122, 14.11.2014 at 05:30

Általa írva Guest, 14.11.2014 at 00:13


Did... did say that you speak better English? English is my first language, I was born in America, raised in America, and had English speaking people all around me.
I'm not the best at English but damn right better than you are.

If the user is too dumb to release what he did wrong with his OS than Bill Gates is not entitled to compsensating him for deleting system 32


Nice fall on Tunder's scarecrowing. He cannot prove that I say it.

Off Topic: AMERICA IS A CONTINENT, NOT A COUNTRY. SCREW YOU ( Nice ad hominen btw).

Általa írva clovis1122, 13.11.2014 at 19:00

>Jared and BlackShark native English<

Who cares? He can be billgate and I can be an user, if I tell billgate that window is bad because in no part it say "reboot", then it is bad.

(And how that they are native languages influences on this, anyway? You cannot prove a relation between IQ and language). (Nice scare-crowing, I never included jared on this.)( And Nice scare-crowing better skills english. Don't make me laugh. Proof or never happen, and I don't accept words manipulation.)




Maybe he try to use the fact that I told you to stop manipulating your words, which is true. There is no "exaggerating" word in your reply. You forgot? Nice lie.

Serious I will just ignore your last reply. You are obvious trying to manipulate the words.

The dictionary is my proof. It point one of the definitions as "Extremely hard". Tunder lost. Stop defending him pls.

EDIT: Just for prove somenthing irrelevant: The topic still exist, it didnt got deleted. Nice lie, tunder. c
THERE IS THE THREAD. So the post where I told you that people use the word to EXAGERRATE IS THERE!

GGNORE

Also dat fail I did, XD
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15.11.2014 - 05:59
Does clovis ever actually make points or does him and tunder just go into flame wars with no logic 24/7?
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14.04.2017 - 19:30
Általa írva Professor Adog, 02.10.2014 at 13:18

  • "Some high ranks are noobs" - Apart from Mellish (no offence but you don't really wall man)


  • 3 years and none killed adog yet
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    15.04.2017 - 04:01
    Általa írva Rock Lee, 14.04.2017 at 19:30

    3 years and none killed adog yet

    Many have tried...
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    16.04.2017 - 07:18
    Általa írva Professor Adog, 02.10.2014 at 13:18





    When i started competitive at rank 5, i was extremely grateful to the high ranked players that let me play ukraine sm. I still am. Now I am capable of winning with any country, but if I had not been allowed to play ukraine sm so much in the old days, i'd never have gotten to this stage.

    You may be right about this, i have no proposed solution.

    But i propose extending the 1 month ban to ANYONE who dies before t5, except that it's double if that person is r10 or higher.


    Általa írva Professor Adog, 02.10.2014 at 13:18

    And just to slip another quote in "Experience is the teacher of all things." ~Julius Caesar

    Yes, but basic skills help a lot.
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    17.04.2017 - 09:27
    Általa írva Rock Lee, 14.04.2017 at 19:30

    Általa írva Professor Adog, 02.10.2014 at 13:18

  • "Some high ranks are noobs" - Apart from Mellish (no offence but you don't really wall man)


  • 3 years and none killed adog yet


    One day...
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    17.04.2017 - 10:31
    Általa írva Professor Adog, 17.04.2017 at 09:27

    Általa írva Rock Lee, 14.04.2017 at 19:30

    Általa írva Professor Adog, 02.10.2014 at 13:18

  • "Some high ranks are noobs" - Apart from Mellish (no offence but you don't really wall man)


  • 3 years and none killed adog yet


    One day...

    Admit mellish is the best player in afterwind+atwar history and i will spare your life
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    17.04.2017 - 11:06
    Általa írva Rock Lee, 17.04.2017 at 10:31

    Általa írva Professor Adog, 17.04.2017 at 09:27

    Általa írva Rock Lee, 14.04.2017 at 19:30

    Általa írva Professor Adog, 02.10.2014 at 13:18

  • "Some high ranks are noobs" - Apart from Mellish (no offence but you don't really wall man)


  • 3 years and none killed adog yet


    One day...

    Admit mellish is the best player in afterwind+atwar history and i will spare your life


    You seem to forget lord Zizou...
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    18.04.2017 - 05:51
    Általa írva Professor Adog, 17.04.2017 at 11:06

    You seem to forget lord Zizou...

    Mellish is a great player. he does not deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with zizou.
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