Failed walls

I am confused.
So in duels i am not allowed to take cities which have failed walls?
For example Paris, Lyon Nantes. In all three cases i have to break the city walls and then take the city?
https://prnt.sc/ux4k8k

No one even walls like that

The paris one is ok, I would state that it's open or take a screenshot of it, but it's acceptable, the rest are not.

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Általa írva Cold Case, 11.10.2020 at 08:28

The paris one is ok, I would state that it's open or take a screenshot of it, but it's acceptable, the rest are not.

How about this Bordeaux failed wall? https://prnt.sc/ux5az8

And why isnt the burden on the one making a "failed wall"?
For example if u cannot wall correctly, then make walls like these, in the SS like Lyon.
https://prnt.sc/ux5az8

Általa írva Cold Case, 11.10.2020 at 08:28

The paris one is ok, I would state that it's open or take a screenshot of it, but it's acceptable, the rest are not.

Also this is good to know. Because i am very lazy and normally i make perfect walls, atleast i try to become better at walling. But since you stated that failed walls like these are ok and the city is not allowed to be taken before the failed walls are broken, i will stay lazy and make imperfect walls

Általa írva JUGERS2, 11.10.2020 at 08:34

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I think if you have to zoombug a wall to hit a city it shouldnt be legal. if you can just take it normally that would be fine. that being said i think zoombugging walls and not cities is fine

Me personally. This only applies on turn 1. Clearly it was an attempted wall and his cities must be respected. But any time after that a failed wall IS A FAILED WALL. I do not respect it. Nantes and lyon could both be hit easily from the south side of it. Because of the fact that the wall isn't formed properly. IMO it is fair game. I have done it before in duels and clan wars and no one has ever said a word.

Általa írva PleaseMe, 11.10.2020 at 14:31

Me personally. This only applies on turn 1. Clearly it was an attempted wall and his cities must be respected. But any time after that a failed wall IS A FAILED WALL. I do not respect it. Nantes and lyon could both be hit easily from the south side of it. Because of the fact that the wall isn't formed properly. IMO it is fair game. I have done it before in duels and clan wars and no one has ever said a word.

bug abuser mecoy

Általa írva tempest (bw fan), 11.10.2020 at 14:34

Általa írva PleaseMe, 11.10.2020 at 14:31

bug abuser mecoy

Let me also just say that I do not go out of my way to find walls that are misplaced. It takes way too much time and obviously messes up move priority. So just breaking the wall and taking it next turn is much easier saves me a lot of time. You rarely ever notice if the wall isn't placed right unless it's clear the way paris is. So its maybe 1 in 500 games. But it has happened.

Általa írva PleaseMe, 11.10.2020 at 14:36

Általa írva tempest (bw fan), 11.10.2020 at 14:34

Általa írva PleaseMe, 11.10.2020 at 14:31

bug abuser mecoy

Let me also just say that I do not go out of my way to find walls that are misplaced. It takes way too much time and obviously messes up move priority. So just breaking the wall and taking it next turn is much easier saves me a lot of time. You rarely ever notice if the wall isn't placed right unless it's clear the way paris is. So its maybe 1 in 500 games. But it has happened.

https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=45862

Just stating the obvious, whoever is found to abuse those walls will be banned.

Általa írva Cold Case, 11.10.2020 at 14:58

Just stating the obvious, whoever is found to abuse those walls will be banned.

I do not think this is a bannable offense. Hardly anyone ever does it. We aren't abusing any part of the game nor using any sort of bugs. It's simply attacking a city where the wall isn't properly formed. I think that is completely fair. Also there is nothing in the rules that says attacking failed walls is illegal and results in a ban. There have never been IN-GAME rules. Not once in the 10 years of atwar. So unless you guys come out with an official rulebook which I have already asked for this is phony. Let people play the game and use their own tricks until something is changed. It's not the players fault that they discovered something in the game that they can use to their advantage. It's simply game mechanic. And if it is in the game and we are able to do it then it should NOT be bannable. Please discuss among admins and moderators before making this decision. It has already costed a valuable player his right to play. And if we keep banning more players for silly reasons eventually we will run out of players to ban.

Általa írva PleaseMe, 11.10.2020 at 15:04

Általa írva Cold Case, 11.10.2020 at 14:58

Just stating the obvious, whoever is found to abuse those walls will be banned.

I do not think this is a bannable offense. Hardly anyone ever does it. We aren't abusing any part of the game nor using any sort of bugs. It's simply attacking a city where the wall isn't properly formed. I think that is completely fair. Also there is nothing in the rules that says attacking failed walls is illegal and results in a ban. There have never been IN-GAME rules. Not once in the 10 years of atwar. So unless you guys come out with an official rulebook which I have already asked for this is phony. Let people play the game and use their own tricks until something is changed. It's not the players fault that they discovered something in the game that they can use to their advantage. It's simply game mechanic. And if it is in the game and we are able to do it then it should NOT be bannable. Please discuss among admins and moderators before making this decision. It has already costed a valuable player his right to play. And if we keep banning more players for silly reasons eventually we will run out of players to ban.

Mecoy, I can't believe you think this is worth a discussion. It's clearly a triangle formed wall, which shouldn't be hit due to zoom bug. It's completely unfair and disrespectfull to abuse this bug. It is not skill, it is not strategic, it's a bug abuse and it's obviously different to the other occasions of failed walls. The only failure on this matter is that there are people who consider this fair and a skill.

Actually there is a rule that's stating it, ''no hacks, no bug abuses'' , and guess what this is, a bug abuse. This type of playing is clearly a desperate action to make up for the gap in a game, and I'm pretty sure everyone feels it's not right to do this. I am not going to start making full triangle or full square walls for you guys. I'm saying it one last time. This is bannable and harshly punished.

Általa írva Cold Case, 11.10.2020 at 15:10

Általa írva PleaseMe, 11.10.2020 at 15:04

Általa írva Cold Case, 11.10.2020 at 14:58

Just stating the obvious, whoever is found to abuse those walls will be banned.

Well if that is the case you must add that into the rule book of things you are not allowed to do. Because you can't ban someone for not knowing it was a 'bug-abuse'. And also we cannot nit-pick things that are considered legal and illegal. Like going from estonia to finland without sea trans, and being able to unload units from a sea trans without docking, and using a submarine as a transport, and zoom-bugging, and moving through land with sea trans, and there are many more. This is simply another tactic and to call it a bug will be calling all these others bugs as well. I am simply stating there needs to be set rules for what we can and cannot do. So can you guys please come out with a new rule to clear the air so we know what is allowed and what isn't?

Általa írva Cold Case, 11.10.2020 at 15:10

Általa írva PleaseMe, 11.10.2020 at 15:04

Általa írva Cold Case, 11.10.2020 at 14:58

Just stating the obvious, whoever is found to abuse those walls will be banned.

I do not think this is a bannable offense. Hardly anyone ever does it. We aren't abusing any part of the game nor using any sort of bugs. It's simply attacking a city where the wall isn't properly formed. I think that is completely fair. Also there is nothing in the rules that says attacking failed walls is illegal and results in a ban. There have never been IN-GAME rules. Not once in the 10 years of atwar. So unless you guys come out with an official rulebook which I have already asked for this is phony. Let people play the game and use their own tricks until something is changed. It's not the players fault that they discovered something in the game that they can use to their advantage. It's simply game mechanic. And if it is in the game and we are able to do it then it should NOT be bannable. Please discuss among admins and moderators before making this decision. It has already costed a valuable player his right to play. And if we keep banning more players for silly reasons eventually we will run out of players to ban.

Mecoy, I can't believe you think this is worth a discussion. It's clearly a triangle formed wall, which shouldn't be hit due to zoom bug. It's completely unfair and disrespectfull to abuse this bug. It is not skill, it is not strategic, it's a bug abuse and it's obviously different to the other occasions of failed walls. The only failure on this matter is that there are people who consider this fair and a skill.

Actually there is a rule that's stating it, ''no hacks, no bug abuses'' , and guess what this is, a bug abuse. This type of playing is clearly a desperate action to make up for the gap in a game, and I'm pretty sure everyone feels it's not right to do this. I am not going to start making full triangle or full square walls for you guys. I'm saying it one last time. This is bannable and harshly punished.

Ok i am going to hold you on your words. Whenever i see someone especially a moderator abuse a bug. I will gladly make you bann him and punish him harshly

Általa írva PleaseMe, 11.10.2020 at 15:14

Well if that is the case you must add that into the rule book of things you are not allowed to do. Because you can't ban someone for not knowing it was a 'bug-abuse'. And also we cannot nit-pick things that are considered legal and illegal. Like going from estonia to finland without sea trans, and being able to unload units from a sea trans without docking, and using a submarine as a transport, and zoom-bugging, and moving through land with sea trans, and there are many more. This is simply another tactic and to call it a bug will be calling all these others bugs as well. I am simply stating there needs to be set rules for what we can and cannot do. So can you guys please come out with a new rule to clear the air so we know what is allowed and what isn't?

I mean, I thought we all were on the same page.
I doubt we will ever sit to make a list of what's allowed and what's not. It's uselles. No one ever in the game's history has asked for it, but if people want to do it then sure go ahead.

I was never a fan of the submarine thing, I hate it and I think it should be banned, community doesn't agree with me. The shortcuts have always been part of the game and that's something people have grown with. However this one is new, uknown and dirty.

Általa írva Cold Case, 11.10.2020 at 15:27

Általa írva PleaseMe, 11.10.2020 at 15:14

Well if that is the case you must add that into the rule book of things you are not allowed to do. Because you can't ban someone for not knowing it was a 'bug-abuse'. And also we cannot nit-pick things that are considered legal and illegal. Like going from estonia to finland without sea trans, and being able to unload units from a sea trans without docking, and using a submarine as a transport, and zoom-bugging, and moving through land with sea trans, and there are many more. This is simply another tactic and to call it a bug will be calling all these others bugs as well. I am simply stating there needs to be set rules for what we can and cannot do. So can you guys please come out with a new rule to clear the air so we know what is allowed and what isn't?

I mean, I thought we all were on the same page.
I doubt we will ever sit to make a list of what's allowed and what's not. It's uselles. No one ever in the game's history has asked for it, but if people want to do it then sure go ahead.

I was never a fan of the submarine thing, I hate it and I think it should be banned, community doesn't agree with me. The shortcuts have always been part of the game and that's something people have grown with. However this one is new, uknown and dirty.

So i cannot take bordeaux and lyon in this ss?
https://prnt.sc/uxc2ep
https://prnt.sc/uxc37s
One can do it without even zooming out

Általa írva ITSGG1122, 11.10.2020 at 15:41

Általa írva Cold Case, 11.10.2020 at 15:27

Általa írva PleaseMe, 11.10.2020 at 15:14

Well if that is the case you must add that into the rule book of things you are not allowed to do. Because you can't ban someone for not knowing it was a 'bug-abuse'. And also we cannot nit-pick things that are considered legal and illegal. Like going from estonia to finland without sea trans, and being able to unload units from a sea trans without docking, and using a submarine as a transport, and zoom-bugging, and moving through land with sea trans, and there are many more. This is simply another tactic and to call it a bug will be calling all these others bugs as well. I am simply stating there needs to be set rules for what we can and cannot do. So can you guys please come out with a new rule to clear the air so we know what is allowed and what isn't?

I mean, I thought we all were on the same page.
I doubt we will ever sit to make a list of what's allowed and what's not. It's uselles. No one ever in the game's history has asked for it, but if people want to do it then sure go ahead.

I was never a fan of the submarine thing, I hate it and I think it should be banned, community doesn't agree with me. The shortcuts have always been part of the game and that's something people have grown with. However this one is new, uknown and dirty.

So i cannot take bordeaux and lyon in this ss?
https://prnt.sc/uxc2ep
https://prnt.sc/uxc37s
One can do it without even zooming out

I think since you dont have to zoombug and directly can hit cities it should be attackable. the walling here is an example of true failed walls that doesnt need exploit to be hit

This is pure clown fiesta.... There is also a nice dumb and dumber duo thats entainrtaining too

Általa írva JUGERS2, 11.10.2020 at 16:54

This is pure clown fiesta.... There is also a nice dumb and dumber duo thats entainrtaining too

Agreed gigi and you are a nice clowns

From my casual gamer point of view .. i have all the time to perfect my walls .. if i failed them, I am resposnsible for my failures .. enemy should not hesitate to capitalize on my flaws .. i think same should apply for quick games

in my dictionary; a bug is something that cannot be countered/stopped/prevented .. therefore "zoombugging" isnt really a bug as it can be countered by a perfect triangle or 4 units if ur not confident enough

Általa írva Mesopotamia, 11.10.2020 at 19:56

From my casual gamer point of view .. i have all the time to perfect my walls .. if i failed them, I am resposnsible for my failures .. enemy should not hesitate to capitalize on my flaws .. i think same should apply for quick games

in my dictionary; a bug is something that cannot be countered/stopped/prevented .. therefore "zoombugging" isnt really a bug as it can be countered by a perfect triangle or 4 units if ur not confident enough

A software bug is an error, flaw or fault in a computer program or system that causes it to produce an incorrect or unexpected result, or to behave in unintended ways.

The fact we really discussing this makes me laugh but in reality we should be crying about the sad state of today's players.