Delete or Change 7 Year's War

Back when I was a rank 5 and 6, I loved to play 7 Years War. I would always be dutch and just destroy everyone because Dutch were OP. Now that I have become more of a 3v3 player and a more professional player I realize now how dumb the map is. It is basically a mission to try and get on UK or France or Spain's good side. Belle has tried to make the rule of no UK-France Alliance (it doesnt work). Just this night no games were up so I joined th 7 Years War. Raffi (Host) was UK, Mellish was Spain, some rank 3 was France and some rank 4 was portugal. I was Saxon and Arch (Prussia) and MOU (Bavaria) all allied together to form our team and we conquered in all directions. UK and Spain allied and capped France and Portugal (Porto was afk) by turn 3. They controlled everything and UK had allied Dutch. Eventually UK and Spain sent over 250 units at me and Bavaria despite us being war-torn, it was complete shit. This is a perfect example of how unbalanced 7 Year's War is and how it is so dumb. Spain-Uk-France Ally Combo of any kind is the largest form of Ally-Fagging especially when you are high ranks and good players. I propose that we changed 7 Year's War to either give smaller nations a chance or make it a team game so they cant ally, or we just outright not play it anymore or delete it. It is no fun to have lower ranks discouraged from playing by being 2v1 against high ranks in a completely obvious ally-fag.

7 Years war mi lyfe

This never happens in GGG for a reason. I told you.

I dont understand how the fuck you play as UK or France or any colonial empire. your empires are huge as hell, you have up to 3-4 parts of the world to defend. Nobody got time fo' dat.

Általa írva Quantum027, 30.01.2014 at 23:01

Back when I was a rank 5 and 6, I loved to play 7 Years War. I would always be dutch and just destroy everyone because Dutch were OP. Now that I have become more of a 3v3 player and a more professional player I realize now how dumb the map is. It is basically a mission to try and get on UK or France or Spain's good side. Belle has tried to make the rule of no UK-France Alliance (it doesnt work). Just this night no games were up so I joined th 7 Years War. Raffi (Host) was UK, Mellish was Spain, some rank 3 was France and some rank 4 was portugal. I was Saxon and Arch (Prussia) and MOU (Bavaria) all allied together to form our team and we conquered in all directions. UK and Spain allied and capped France and Portugal (Porto was afk) by turn 3. They controlled everything and UK had allied Dutch. Eventually UK and Spain sent over 250 units at me and Bavaria despite us being war-torn, it was complete shit. This is a perfect example of how unbalanced 7 Year's War is and how it is so dumb. Spain-Uk-France Ally Combo of any kind is the largest form of Ally-Fagging especially when you are high ranks and good players. I propose that we changed 7 Year's War to either give smaller nations a chance or make it a team game so they cant ally, or we just outright not play it anymore or delete it. It is no fun to have lower ranks discouraged from playing by being 2v1 against high ranks in a completely obvious ally-fag.

I used to drink Bourbon until I discovered Scotch and Irish Whiskey. Now I hate Bourbon and want everybody to hate it as well. Down with the Tennessee whiskey industry! WTF!

Általa írva Columna Durruti, 31.01.2014 at 08:03

Általa írva Quantum027, 30.01.2014 at 23:01

Back when I was a rank 5 and 6, I loved to play 7 Years War. I would always be dutch and just destroy everyone because Dutch were OP. Now that I have become more of a 3v3 player and a more professional player I realize now how dumb the map is. It is basically a mission to try and get on UK or France or Spain's good side. Belle has tried to make the rule of no UK-France Alliance (it doesnt work). Just this night no games were up so I joined th 7 Years War. Raffi (Host) was UK, Mellish was Spain, some rank 3 was France and some rank 4 was portugal. I was Saxon and Arch (Prussia) and MOU (Bavaria) all allied together to form our team and we conquered in all directions. UK and Spain allied and capped France and Portugal (Porto was afk) by turn 3. They controlled everything and UK had allied Dutch. Eventually UK and Spain sent over 250 units at me and Bavaria despite us being war-torn, it was complete shit. This is a perfect example of how unbalanced 7 Year's War is and how it is so dumb. Spain-Uk-France Ally Combo of any kind is the largest form of Ally-Fagging especially when you are high ranks and good players. I propose that we changed 7 Year's War to either give smaller nations a chance or make it a team game so they cant ally, or we just outright not play it anymore or delete it. It is no fun to have lower ranks discouraged from playing by being 2v1 against high ranks in a completely obvious ally-fag.

I used to drink Bourbon until I discovered Scotch and Irish Whiskey. Now I hate Bourbon and want everybody to hate it as well. Down with the Tennessee whiskey industry! WTF!

What is your point?

Általa írva Guest, 31.01.2014 at 08:15

Általa írva Columna Durruti, 31.01.2014 at 08:03

Általa írva Quantum027, 30.01.2014 at 23:01

Back when I was a rank 5 and 6, I loved to play 7 Years War. I would always be dutch and just destroy everyone because Dutch were OP. Now that I have become more of a 3v3 player and a more professional player I realize now how dumb the map is. It is basically a mission to try and get on UK or France or Spain's good side. Belle has tried to make the rule of no UK-France Alliance (it doesnt work). Just this night no games were up so I joined th 7 Years War. Raffi (Host) was UK, Mellish was Spain, some rank 3 was France and some rank 4 was portugal. I was Saxon and Arch (Prussia) and MOU (Bavaria) all allied together to form our team and we conquered in all directions. UK and Spain allied and capped France and Portugal (Porto was afk) by turn 3. They controlled everything and UK had allied Dutch. Eventually UK and Spain sent over 250 units at me and Bavaria despite us being war-torn, it was complete shit. This is a perfect example of how unbalanced 7 Year's War is and how it is so dumb. Spain-Uk-France Ally Combo of any kind is the largest form of Ally-Fagging especially when you are high ranks and good players. I propose that we changed 7 Year's War to either give smaller nations a chance or make it a team game so they cant ally, or we just outright not play it anymore or delete it. It is no fun to have lower ranks discouraged from playing by being 2v1 against high ranks in a completely obvious ally-fag.

I used to drink Bourbon until I discovered Scotch and Irish Whiskey. Now I hate Bourbon and want everybody to hate it as well. Down with the Tennessee whiskey industry! WTF!

What is your point?

Point?
Actually just to remind people that it is about preferences. Like Jared said, he used to enjoy this scenario and now, since he "discovered" that it is not really a balanced scenario and that it does not really improve players skills, he pledges for changes of scenario and/or having it removed. Is this correct? No, actually players should be allowed to enjoy the games/maps/scenarios they wish (even 7YW and UN)... that's all I wanted to point out.
NO to map/scenario puritanism (and hypocrisy, like talking shit about UN games and making UN scenarios!).

Általa írva Quantum027, 30.01.2014 at 23:01

Spain-Uk-France Ally Combo of any kind is the largest form of Ally-Fagging especially when you are high ranks and good players.

You are rank 8 UN player so...?

Általa írva Columna Durruti, 31.01.2014 at 08:20

NO to map/scenario puritanism (and hypocrisy, like talking shit about UN games and making UN scenarios!).

:0

Just because i make borders for UN doesnt mean that i support it.

Általa írva Krieger3, 31.01.2014 at 09:04

Általa írva Columna Durruti, 31.01.2014 at 08:20

NO to map/scenario puritanism (and hypocrisy, like talking shit about UN games and making UN scenarios!).

:0

Just because i make borders for UN doesnt mean that i support it.

o.O

Általa írva Columna Durruti, 31.01.2014 at 08:20

No, actually players should be allowed to enjoy the games/maps/scenarios they wish (even 7YW and UN)... that's all I wanted to point out.

This!

No, un is gay

Általa írva Quantum027, 30.01.2014 at 23:01

Back when I was a rank 5 and 6, I loved to play 7 Years War. I would always be dutch and just destroy everyone because Dutch were OP. Now that I have become more of a 3v3 player and a more professional player I realize now how dumb the map is. It is basically a mission to try and get on UK or France or Spain's good side. Belle has tried to make the rule of no UK-France Alliance (it doesnt work). Just this night no games were up so I joined th 7 Years War. Raffi (Host) was UK, Mellish was Spain, some rank 3 was France and some rank 4 was portugal. I was Saxon and Arch (Prussia) and MOU (Bavaria) all allied together to form our team and we conquered in all directions. UK and Spain allied and capped France and Portugal (Porto was afk) by turn 3. They controlled everything and UK had allied Dutch. Eventually UK and Spain sent over 250 units at me and Bavaria despite us being war-torn, it was complete shit. This is a perfect example of how unbalanced 7 Year's War is and how it is so dumb. Spain-Uk-France Ally Combo of any kind is the largest form of Ally-Fagging especially when you are high ranks and good players. I propose that we changed 7 Year's War to either give smaller nations a chance or make it a team game so they cant ally, or we just outright not play it anymore or delete it. It is no fun to have lower ranks discouraged from playing by being 2v1 against high ranks in a completely obvious ally-fag.

Thanks for the Feedback.
I take peoples feedback very seriously. Indeed most of 7 years success (top 5 most played scenarios) can be attributed to the countless suggestions from its players.

The 7 Years Development process has always been open and inclusive. 7 Years at day one would be unrecognizable form the current version.

If you could give me a series of suggestions as to how you would fix your perceived problems, please let me know. You have made the problem clear, but I would like to see how you propose fixing it. Superpowers allying has always been a problem in 7 years. Frankly I wish there were custom alliance options for scenario making, so I could restrict who allies whom. But there aren't.

There is a team version of 7 years, but again balance is difficult. This is because the historical allies would make the game unbalanced.

I will never delete 7 years, as it is the most effective means of irritating Tunder. But I will constantly improve it (as this will irritate Tunder or deception, or whatever the shit he is called even more).

Általa írva Bellerophon, 31.01.2014 at 14:35

Általa írva Quantum027, 30.01.2014 at 23:01

Back when I was a rank 5 and 6, I loved to play 7 Years War. I would always be dutch and just destroy everyone because Dutch were OP. Now that I have become more of a 3v3 player and a more professional player I realize now how dumb the map is. It is basically a mission to try and get on UK or France or Spain's good side. Belle has tried to make the rule of no UK-France Alliance (it doesnt work). Just this night no games were up so I joined th 7 Years War. Raffi (Host) was UK, Mellish was Spain, some rank 3 was France and some rank 4 was portugal. I was Saxon and Arch (Prussia) and MOU (Bavaria) all allied together to form our team and we conquered in all directions. UK and Spain allied and capped France and Portugal (Porto was afk) by turn 3. They controlled everything and UK had allied Dutch. Eventually UK and Spain sent over 250 units at me and Bavaria despite us being war-torn, it was complete shit. This is a perfect example of how unbalanced 7 Year's War is and how it is so dumb. Spain-Uk-France Ally Combo of any kind is the largest form of Ally-Fagging especially when you are high ranks and good players. I propose that we changed 7 Year's War to either give smaller nations a chance or make it a team game so they cant ally, or we just outright not play it anymore or delete it. It is no fun to have lower ranks discouraged from playing by being 2v1 against high ranks in a completely obvious ally-fag.

Thanks for the Feedback.
I take peoples feedback very seriously. Indeed most of 7 years success (top 5 most played scenarios) can be attributed to the countless suggestions from its players.

The 7 Years Development process has always been open and inclusive. 7 Years at day one would be unrecognizable form the current version.

If you could give me a series of suggestions as to how you would fix your perceived problems, please let me know. You have made the problem clear, but I would like to see how you propose fixing it. Superpowers allying has always been a problem in 7 years. Frankly I wish there were custom alliance options for scenario making, so I could restrict who allies whom. But there aren't.

There is a team version of 7 years, but again balance is difficult. This is because the historical allies would make the game unbalanced.

I will never delete 7 years, as it is the most effective means of irritating Tunder. But I will constantly improve it (as this will irritate Tunder or deception, or whatever the shit he is called even more).

Perhaps maybe add a player (like native americans) that represents rebels of the big 3's colonies it would help prevent them from sitting back making 1500 a turn and building an army before invading people who try.

But what would stop the big 3 from allying the rebels?

The whole point of natives was to do the same thing, but it only works sometimes.

Általa írva Bellerophon, 31.01.2014 at 15:39

But what would stop the big 3 from allying the rebels?

The whole point of natives was to do the same thing, but it only works sometimes.

or you could... Perhaps.... see GGG and "borrow" my idea to prevent UK-France alliance, because Tunder is a humble map maker that shares ideas and assets (at the price of your soul).

Általa írva Guest, 31.01.2014 at 07:34

I dont understand how the fuck you play as UK or France or any colonial empire. your empires are huge as hell, you have up to 3-4 parts of the world to defend. Nobody got time fo' dat.

Speed young one its all about the speed.

Általa írva Krieger3, 31.01.2014 at 16:03

Általa írva Bellerophon, 31.01.2014 at 15:39

But what would stop the big 3 from allying the rebels?

The whole point of natives was to do the same thing, but it only works sometimes.

or you could... Perhaps.... see GGG and "borrow" my idea to prevent UK-France alliance, because Tunder is a humble map maker that shares ideas and assets (at the price of your soul).

Already took his soul. You'll need to buy it from me.

Általa írva Columna Durruti, 31.01.2014 at 08:20

Általa írva Guest, 31.01.2014 at 08:15

Általa írva Columna Durruti, 31.01.2014 at 08:03

Általa írva Quantum027, 30.01.2014 at 23:01

Back when I was a rank 5 and 6, I loved to play 7 Years War. I would always be dutch and just destroy everyone because Dutch were OP. Now that I have become more of a 3v3 player and a more professional player I realize now how dumb the map is. It is basically a mission to try and get on UK or France or Spain's good side. Belle has tried to make the rule of no UK-France Alliance (it doesnt work). Just this night no games were up so I joined th 7 Years War. Raffi (Host) was UK, Mellish was Spain, some rank 3 was France and some rank 4 was portugal. I was Saxon and Arch (Prussia) and MOU (Bavaria) all allied together to form our team and we conquered in all directions. UK and Spain allied and capped France and Portugal (Porto was afk) by turn 3. They controlled everything and UK had allied Dutch. Eventually UK and Spain sent over 250 units at me and Bavaria despite us being war-torn, it was complete shit. This is a perfect example of how unbalanced 7 Year's War is and how it is so dumb. Spain-Uk-France Ally Combo of any kind is the largest form of Ally-Fagging especially when you are high ranks and good players. I propose that we changed 7 Year's War to either give smaller nations a chance or make it a team game so they cant ally, or we just outright not play it anymore or delete it. It is no fun to have lower ranks discouraged from playing by being 2v1 against high ranks in a completely obvious ally-fag.

I used to drink Bourbon until I discovered Scotch and Irish Whiskey. Now I hate Bourbon and want everybody to hate it as well. Down with the Tennessee whiskey industry! WTF!

What is your point?

Point?
Actually just to remind people that it is about preferences. Like Jared said, he used to enjoy this scenario and now, since he "discovered" that it is not really a balanced scenario and that it does not really improve players skills, he pledges for changes of scenario and/or having it removed. Is this correct? No, actually players should be allowed to enjoy the games/maps/scenarios they wish (even 7YW and UN)... that's all I wanted to point out.
NO to map/scenario puritanism (and hypocrisy, like talking shit about UN games and making UN scenarios!).

But the reason he wants 7 years edited is because of a big problem. Like having chemicals in that Bourbon, obviously when there's bad stuff in that you want to tell people not to drink it.

Általa írva Columna Durruti, 31.01.2014 at 08:03

Általa írva Quantum027, 30.01.2014 at 23:01

Back when I was a rank 5 and 6, I loved to play 7 Years War. I would always be dutch and just destroy everyone because Dutch were OP. Now that I have become more of a 3v3 player and a more professional player I realize now how dumb the map is. It is basically a mission to try and get on UK or France or Spain's good side. Belle has tried to make the rule of no UK-France Alliance (it doesnt work). Just this night no games were up so I joined th 7 Years War. Raffi (Host) was UK, Mellish was Spain, some rank 3 was France and some rank 4 was portugal. I was Saxon and Arch (Prussia) and MOU (Bavaria) all allied together to form our team and we conquered in all directions. UK and Spain allied and capped France and Portugal (Porto was afk) by turn 3. They controlled everything and UK had allied Dutch. Eventually UK and Spain sent over 250 units at me and Bavaria despite us being war-torn, it was complete shit. This is a perfect example of how unbalanced 7 Year's War is and how it is so dumb. Spain-Uk-France Ally Combo of any kind is the largest form of Ally-Fagging especially when you are high ranks and good players. I propose that we changed 7 Year's War to either give smaller nations a chance or make it a team game so they cant ally, or we just outright not play it anymore or delete it. It is no fun to have lower ranks discouraged from playing by being 2v1 against high ranks in a completely obvious ally-fag.

I used to drink Bourbon until I discovered Scotch and Irish Whiskey. Now I hate Bourbon and want everybody to hate it as well. Down with the Tennessee whiskey industry! WTF!

Tennesse whiskey does tastes like ass, Irish whiskey is for bums, I mean come on some of that shit is 90%+ alcohol if you like that go down some chilled metholated spirits.

Rum or cider master race

Általa írva 4Chan, 01.02.2014 at 11:07

Általa írva Columna Durruti, 31.01.2014 at 08:03

Általa írva Quantum027, 30.01.2014 at 23:01

Back when I was a rank 5 and 6, I loved to play 7 Years War. I would always be dutch and just destroy everyone because Dutch were OP. Now that I have become more of a 3v3 player and a more professional player I realize now how dumb the map is. It is basically a mission to try and get on UK or France or Spain's good side. Belle has tried to make the rule of no UK-France Alliance (it doesnt work). Just this night no games were up so I joined th 7 Years War. Raffi (Host) was UK, Mellish was Spain, some rank 3 was France and some rank 4 was portugal. I was Saxon and Arch (Prussia) and MOU (Bavaria) all allied together to form our team and we conquered in all directions. UK and Spain allied and capped France and Portugal (Porto was afk) by turn 3. They controlled everything and UK had allied Dutch. Eventually UK and Spain sent over 250 units at me and Bavaria despite us being war-torn, it was complete shit. This is a perfect example of how unbalanced 7 Year's War is and how it is so dumb. Spain-Uk-France Ally Combo of any kind is the largest form of Ally-Fagging especially when you are high ranks and good players. I propose that we changed 7 Year's War to either give smaller nations a chance or make it a team game so they cant ally, or we just outright not play it anymore or delete it. It is no fun to have lower ranks discouraged from playing by being 2v1 against high ranks in a completely obvious ally-fag.

I used to drink Bourbon until I discovered Scotch and Irish Whiskey. Now I hate Bourbon and want everybody to hate it as well. Down with the Tennessee whiskey industry! WTF!

Tennesse whiskey does tastes like ass, Irish whiskey is for bums, I mean come on some of that shit is 90%+ alcohol if you like that go down some chilled metholated spirits.

Rum or cider master race

Rum is great; just don't call Bacardi a Rum! Stick to Zacapa (Guatemala) or Flor de Caña (Nicaragua)... those are really fine liquors.

Általa írva Columna Durruti, 01.02.2014 at 16:27

Általa írva 4Chan, 01.02.2014 at 11:07

Általa írva Columna Durruti, 31.01.2014 at 08:03

Általa írva Quantum027, 30.01.2014 at 23:01

Back when I was a rank 5 and 6, I loved to play 7 Years War. I would always be dutch and just destroy everyone because Dutch were OP. Now that I have become more of a 3v3 player and a more professional player I realize now how dumb the map is. It is basically a mission to try and get on UK or France or Spain's good side. Belle has tried to make the rule of no UK-France Alliance (it doesnt work). Just this night no games were up so I joined th 7 Years War. Raffi (Host) was UK, Mellish was Spain, some rank 3 was France and some rank 4 was portugal. I was Saxon and Arch (Prussia) and MOU (Bavaria) all allied together to form our team and we conquered in all directions. UK and Spain allied and capped France and Portugal (Porto was afk) by turn 3. They controlled everything and UK had allied Dutch. Eventually UK and Spain sent over 250 units at me and Bavaria despite us being war-torn, it was complete shit. This is a perfect example of how unbalanced 7 Year's War is and how it is so dumb. Spain-Uk-France Ally Combo of any kind is the largest form of Ally-Fagging especially when you are high ranks and good players. I propose that we changed 7 Year's War to either give smaller nations a chance or make it a team game so they cant ally, or we just outright not play it anymore or delete it. It is no fun to have lower ranks discouraged from playing by being 2v1 against high ranks in a completely obvious ally-fag.

I used to drink Bourbon until I discovered Scotch and Irish Whiskey. Now I hate Bourbon and want everybody to hate it as well. Down with the Tennessee whiskey industry! WTF!

Tennesse whiskey does tastes like ass, Irish whiskey is for bums, I mean come on some of that shit is 90%+ alcohol if you like that go down some chilled metholated spirits.

Rum or cider master race

Rum is great; just don't call Bacardi a Rum! Stick to Zacapa (Guatemala) or Flor de Caña (Nicaragua)... those are really fine liquors.

PURA PINCHE TEQUILA MADE IN MEXICO.

Általa írva Krieger3, 01.02.2014 at 16:33

Általa írva Columna Durruti, 01.02.2014 at 16:27

Általa írva 4Chan, 01.02.2014 at 11:07

Általa írva Columna Durruti, 31.01.2014 at 08:03

Általa írva Quantum027, 30.01.2014 at 23:01

Back when I was a rank 5 and 6, I loved to play 7 Years War. I would always be dutch and just destroy everyone because Dutch were OP. Now that I have become more of a 3v3 player and a more professional player I realize now how dumb the map is. It is basically a mission to try and get on UK or France or Spain's good side. Belle has tried to make the rule of no UK-France Alliance (it doesnt work). Just this night no games were up so I joined th 7 Years War. Raffi (Host) was UK, Mellish was Spain, some rank 3 was France and some rank 4 was portugal. I was Saxon and Arch (Prussia) and MOU (Bavaria) all allied together to form our team and we conquered in all directions. UK and Spain allied and capped France and Portugal (Porto was afk) by turn 3. They controlled everything and UK had allied Dutch. Eventually UK and Spain sent over 250 units at me and Bavaria despite us being war-torn, it was complete shit. This is a perfect example of how unbalanced 7 Year's War is and how it is so dumb. Spain-Uk-France Ally Combo of any kind is the largest form of Ally-Fagging especially when you are high ranks and good players. I propose that we changed 7 Year's War to either give smaller nations a chance or make it a team game so they cant ally, or we just outright not play it anymore or delete it. It is no fun to have lower ranks discouraged from playing by being 2v1 against high ranks in a completely obvious ally-fag.

I used to drink Bourbon until I discovered Scotch and Irish Whiskey. Now I hate Bourbon and want everybody to hate it as well. Down with the Tennessee whiskey industry! WTF!

Tennesse whiskey does tastes like ass, Irish whiskey is for bums, I mean come on some of that shit is 90%+ alcohol if you like that go down some chilled metholated spirits.

Rum or cider master race

Rum is great; just don't call Bacardi a Rum! Stick to Zacapa (Guatemala) or Flor de Caña (Nicaragua)... those are really fine liquors.

PURA PINCHE TEQUILA MADE IN MEXICO.

Uhhh... yes! A good Tequila is something special. Loved my visit to Puebla; nice people, excellent food (ate a Mole from Oaxaca) and some really great Tequila. If I recall well, it was a Don Julio (añejado).

Why so off-topic?

Általa írva Meester, 01.02.2014 at 23:10

Why so off-topic?

Because.