RIP Nelson Mandela

Általa írva Guest, 10.12.2013 at 10:04

So guys, how bout' that next evolutionary step? You know, the one where we control ourselves from killing each other and embrace culture and individuality as opposed to greed and power?

Yu want to embrace culture AND individduality? As usual, you have no clue. Culture opposes individuality. Culture is a socialization of large groups. Individualism kills culture but individualism is a poison which causes lower birth rates so another culture dominates.

Individuality is greed and power. Its self interest.

You are such a child. Praising some terrorist and now you speak riddles of viewpoints whcih contradict eachother. You aren't smart, you aren't a special snowflake. You are an easily manipulated, emasculated child who spouts rhetoric from the media.

Tik stop fucking raging Nelson is a hero but seen in other guys eyes a terrorist fine it your point of view , ignore whole world admitting him being a hero and start to rage on us about Nelson being a terrorist , for the God sake that man have died let him rest in peace why you love shitting around -_-

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 12:41

I doubt such a big country like SA was uninhabited before english and dutch arrived

It was. As I said, any tribes which did exist were small and were given independent reservations the size of their lands. These still exist to this day.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 12:41

... because of ''guns and bible'' english and dutch ruled for centuries, not because africans wanted them.

They migrated to South Africa from the Congo becuase South Africa was so rich and peaceful. They chose to live under White Rule.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 12:41

White man gifted africa with only with a whip, hunger, slave working. Thats a fact. There is no african who made a profit from working while ill or tired, all diamonts, gold and money went to some english fatass colonialist.

As usual. You know very little actual history. The quality of life under hite rule of Africans improved immensely. They went from tribesman at constant war with their neighbours, to civilization. They gained access to technology, language, even the written word. Much of the non Islam areas of Africa had never even concieved the written word or even the wheel. They life spans doubles, their birth rates quadrupled and higher. Every city in Africa which exists today was built upon trade posts and forts of colonialists. Whats wrong with Europeans getting rich from their work? Especially South Africa which was empty.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 12:41

England got jealous when Mandela arrived to bring democracy and peace, so they made situation in SA go downhill. Thats why you have crime, rape, murderers and demonstrations there, not because africans cannot solve problems(which colonialists bringed).

How did he want peace when he brought war? He was an arms dealer, a terrorist, a smuggler. He murdered civilians and was about to blow up schools and hospitals before he was finally caught and arrested. He did not care about democracy, the thought process didnt even exist until the White man taught them such a concept. England cut off ties with South Africa because the Boers didnt want them. The Boers wanted independence. South Africa was completely cut off from the world thanks to the East and West whom South Africa wanted no part in their Cold War. Sanctions killed the South African economy which had flourished previously. Crime rates didnt explode UNTIL Mandela became leader. Not UNITIL aprtheid ended did crime rates increase. The economy imroved under Mandela but only because Western and Eastern sanctions had been lifted. South Africa became a service economy like other countries around the world which all saw a Boom. But the policies of the Marist driven goverment destroyed South Africa. It opened the floodgates of blacks into white cities and suburbs. In less than ten years, they destroyed centuries of hard work and labor by Whites.

Unemployment and crime increase BECAUSE of the end of apartheid. Because of blacks. This is seen in Detroit, Florida, Paris, Spain, italy, Greece, Israel, Sweden, Norway, Turkey, China and Russia. They always commit higher crime rates. they always have higher unemployment. Always. I dont see Russia inviting Africans in. You know what I see? I see Russia paying $8000 to any European male to join Russia and settle. That offer is not given to Africans or even Chinese. Russia wants European males to breed with its large female population.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 12:41

Same happened to Congo, when belgians left they made mess, so congolese cant pull together for some time, also belgium is still funding rebels in east part of the country, to bring more troubles although they left. Thats the evil colonialism of yours. Be proud of it.

When they left it became a mess. But becuase they left, not becuase of what they had created. Congolese Africans beg for Europeans to come back, to end the conflicts and bring back the prosperity they brought. Belgians despite their earlier harsh treatment of Africans built prospoerous cities along the Africna congo which Africans flocked to.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 12:41

I dont know why you mentioned Russia, maybe because of the american movies, you westerns cannot talk or think without poking russia eh?

I dont poke Russia. I poked you for your hypocrisy.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 12:41

Now we are rebuilding our third empire, democratic and free

Oh please. Putin is a dictator. Dont imply otherwise and I dont claim that a bad thing. Putin is undemocratic. He has had multiple journlauists executed. Hell, he executed the entire Polish government for not accepting his billion dollar gas deal.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 12:41

arresting all noobs who gets on our way, noobs like criminals, traitors who sold themselves to the west to trashtalk and shit on everything that is russian.

So you want peace and freedom but ou arrest people who speak their mind? You cant have it both ways. Freedom has a price and that price is people who trashtalk your nation.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 12:41

West is jealous of our resources, knowledge, history, military, heh, almost everything, so we know you hate us and want to fall again, but that wont happen this time.

I dont want Russia to fall. I see it prosper and hope leaders like Putin pop up across Europe but you are a hypocrite.

I'm not gonna enter south africa issue, just about one of your note

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 13:07

Because of blacks. This is seen in Detroit, Florida, Paris, Spain, italy, Greece, Israel, Sweden, Norway, Turkey, China and Russia. They always commit higher crime rates. they always have higher unemployment.

higher crime rates coming with lack of socialist tools, but the second generation gets better, you can see it as properly in Israel, the ethiopians who came in the eigthees had high crimes rates here, and the second generation is far better and not exceptional, the new migrators from sudan have very high crime rates, but their next generations will be better i guess, i don't pretend to know alot about africa, but by opening a map you can see that less or more the same place ethiopia and sudan.

so in my opinion crimes rates depend on the education and socialist infrastructure you are grown on, when people from other country integrate in other society they will be like them, so it's not about race or skin color, but about culture and society.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 13:24

higher crime rates coming with lack of socialist tools, but the second generation gets better, you can see it as properly in Israel, the ethiopians who came in the eigthees had high crimes rates here, and the second generation is far better and not exceptional, the new migrators from sudan have very high crime rates, but their next generations will be better i guess, i don't pretend to know alot about africa, but by opening a map you can see that less or more the same place ethiopia and sudan.

so in my opinion crimes rates depend on the education and socialist infrastructure you are grown on, when people from other country integrate in other society they will be like them, so it's not about race or skin color, but about culture and society.

That's why most of these Africans have been deported from Israel?

Israel said planning to deport African migrants to Uganda
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/29/us-israel-migrants-africa-idUSBRE97S18Z20130829

Jail without charge for African migrants in Israel
http://rt.com/news/israel-illegal-immigrants-jail-014/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
The number and status of African refugees in Israel is disputed and controversial but it is estimated that at least 70,000 refugees mainly from Eritrea, Sudan, South Sudan, Ethiopia and the Ivory Coast reside and work in Israel. A recent check (late 2011) published in Ynet pointed out the Number only in Tel Aviv is 40,000 which represents 10 percent of the city's population.

Israel admits forcibly injecting Ethiopian Jews with Depo-Provera
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/israel-admits-forcibly-injecting-ethiopian-jews-with-depo-provera

Israel halts underhanded contraceptive injections for Ethiopian migrants
http://www.bioedge.org/index.php/bioethics/bioethics_article/10377

Israeli Anger Over 'African' Crime Wave
http://forward.com/articles/156804/israeli-anger-over-african-crime-wave/?p=all

No, the first generation tends to be the best if you have a good bordern control system. The second generation gets worse as does the third. This is common in Europe and most places. South Africa is getting worse becuase of Africans. White RUle created a prosperous nation which even had nuclear arms. Black South Africa is a ruined shell filled with a rape, murder and a fialing service economy even during the boom period. It will get worse and worse as the ANC, the supposedly pro multi racial aprty will tax whites more and eventually sieze assets.

That will utterly kill what is left of South Africa.

Dont get involved in this conversation adn use Israel as some shining beacon of immigration when even the Ethiopian Jews were forcibly given contraceptives and the rest are being deported.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 13:55

That's why most of these Africans have been deported from Israel?

Israel said planning to deport African migrants to Uganda
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/29/us-israel-migrants-africa-idUSBRE97S18Z20130829

Jail without charge for African migrants in Israel
http://rt.com/news/israel-illegal-immigrants-jail-014/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
The number and status of African refugees in Israel is disputed and controversial but it is estimated that at least 70,000 refugees mainly from Eritrea, Sudan, South Sudan, Ethiopia and the Ivory Coast reside and work in Israel. A recent check (late 2011) published in Ynet pointed out the Number only in Tel Aviv is 40,000 which represents 10 percent of the city's population.

Israel admits forcibly injecting Ethiopian Jews with Depo-Provera
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/israel-admits-forcibly-injecting-ethiopian-jews-with-depo-provera

Israel halts underhanded contraceptive injections for Ethiopian migrants
http://www.bioedge.org/index.php/bioethics/bioethics_article/10377

Israeli Anger Over 'African' Crime Wave
http://forward.com/articles/156804/israeli-anger-over-african-crime-wave/?p=all

No, the first generation tends to be the best if you have a good bordern control system. The second generation gets worse as does the third. This is common in Europe and most places. South Africa is getting worse becuase of Africans. White RUle created a prosperous nation which even had nuclear arms. Black South Africa is a ruined shell filled with a rape, murder and a fialing service economy even during the boom period. It will get worse and worse as the ANC, the supposedly pro multi racial aprty will tax whites more and eventually sieze assets.

That will utterly kill what is left of South Africa.

Dont get involved in this conversation adn use Israel as some shining beacon of immigration when even the Ethiopian Jews were forcibly given contraceptives and the rest are being deported.

Israel also planned to be founded in uganda, did it happen? nay, very low percent of what you read on the media will actually happen, the "Jails" you are talking about are refugees camps, these who manage to enter israel are staying there for few weeks and then getting on buses to tel aviv, in Israel we can't really know who is refugee and who is not, every one who manages to cross gets a VISA, that's why we'v built a fence (120K of 7M is very high part of population).

maybe in europe it's diffrent, in Israel the second generation has commits far lower crimes percent, maybe becuase the ethiopians were jews coming to jewish country it was easier for them to intergrate in society, however i still belive integration is the key to get lowe crime and unemployment rates, as for south africa, as you said, the sanctions ruind their economy, so free markets fails there, socialism will help in their social problems, free market is one level higher.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 13:42

A man who brought a true democracy and freedom to Russia, it is the successor of Tsar's time when feudalism is abolished around 1850 called dictator. Very lame. Putin held referendum, people voted for federation, Putin held referendum - people voted for inner republics for nonrussian population, Putin held referrendum - people voted to preserve nukes, build more and not join NATO. Putin is elected President who represent Russia and russian people in the world, but true russian leader is russian people. Putin done, doing and will do everything that russian people wants, thats true democracy,

You think elections area real? I asked you, why were journalists murdered? Why was the Polish government murdered? Why do you pander such ridiculous ideals like democracy and freedom? These ideals have killed the West. The East is anti democratic and anti freedom. It is why they are so successful. Democracy is a terrible ideal.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 13:42

Russia will make allies that russian people want, Russia will invade a country russian people want, Russia will stop the West of attacking some country if russian people order that.

No, you will do what the state tells you to do. You will hate who the state tells you to hate. That is the real reason why Russia works. You do not allow a free press, you do not allow journalists to speka their minds and you invade and annhilate political opponents. There is no opposition to Putin, only controlled opposition. Only opposition that is allowed. That is why Russia works, that is why CHina works. They have long term governments with long term leaders with set plans that cannot be interfered with.

You are so naive. You swallow western lies of freedom adn democracy as the good traits fo Russia when it is Russias anti democratic and anti free policies which have helped it prosper.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 13:42

in Russia, anyone can make a party, candidate and eventually be elected for parliament or some local position

Controlled opposition that is allowed to exist to merely give the illusion of a democratic process.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 13:42

while in USA and UK you have only two parties constanly ruling the country, of anyone oppose - ban to fema camps.

No. Britain has a multi party system but it is manipulated by the main two parties. Putin has been head of russia since 99. Dmitry Medvedev was a puppet because he couldnt take a Third. That doesnt happen anywhere else. The USA prevents this, the UK ahs never had a leader come back and take leadership again. It is unheard of across almost every country and election in existence. Putin is a dictator and that is why Russia is successful. His political maneuvering and iron fist control over the media and surrounding sovereign territories means he can exert constant control over things.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 13:42

in Russia both russians and turks have equal rights, in England for example, english can do whatever they want in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland, and they must endure that. Thats not freedom, thats fascism, pure repression.

What are you talking about? The Scottish and welsh have free universities and access to cancer treating drugs that the English cannot have. Scotland and Wales have it better than the English and the Scots can deny English access to Scottish universities. The English cannot do this to the Scots or Welsh. A welshman, Irishman adn Scotsman in England will be treated like any other. The reverse would get a beating. You know NOTHING about the social politics of Britain. The English actually get a severely bad draw compared to the Welsh and Scottish which sue ENGLISH money to fund their universities and national healthcare.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 13:42

Why not USA make referrendum on Texas question? too scared texas might separated and eventually join Mexico eh?

Because Texas would secede in a heartbeat but it wouldnt join the Mexicans. It would deport its Mexican population and exert influence on other southern states to secede and create a new confederacy. When did I imply the US was Free? Its press has less limitations than the US and the population can protest in a far fiercer manner but it would go through huge court systems. That doesnt exist in Russia. When Pussy RIot gets out of Prison, you can pretend Russians can protest. Trust me, its a good thing they cant. Oh wait, you think Russian republics could secede if they wanted? Any leader wanting that would be quietly stripped of power.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 13:42

Why England doesnt let scottish to held referrendum?

They are. In September 2014. And like the Northern Irish they will vote to stay in the Union becuase it is in their interests.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 13:42

instead, english are running to germans to ask what to do.

No, the British are telling the Germans to stop using the EU to manipulate markets to their favour.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 13:42

Should Scotland get new visas, passports, application to join UN, EU, WTO, NATO if separating from UK? of course yes, Scotland must not gain from independence, they should rather suffer so they can tell ''hey, we were good in UK, why arent we with england now...''

You are the most opinionated but ignorant speaker on the internet. You have no clue how your own country works and why it works. You spout western viewpoints as a positive when they are a negative. You make broad claims about my country which you know nothing about. You live in a bubble of propoganda becuase you cant see an objective view outside your own screen labelled with Russia Today.

Here's a protip. Russia Today isn't for Russians. Its for westerners. Whiel Russia promotes social conservatism, prohibiting homosexuality and banning certain quran scriptures. Russia Today promtoes Multicutlrualism, Homosexuality and Immigration in Europe.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 13:42

You better check your own backyard neighboor, then criticize Putin and Mandela.

You didnt answer a single talking point on Mandela. I assume you gave up on that argument as you have no clue. I made many paragraphs on the benefits of colonialism which you cannot give a rebuttal to. Typical. You always run from arguments and you always get destroyed in them. Remember when you said Persia wasnt involved in WWI? Funny as fuck.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

Israel also planned to be founded in uganda, did it happen? nay, very low percent of what you read on the media will actually happen,

Oh please. Denying links when these is all admitted by the Israeli government? I gave enough sources and evidence. I dont need to justify it further. If you can't explain them, dont just deny them. These are facts. Admitted facts. Israel IS deporting Africna Migrants. The Africans DO COMMIT higher crime rates. Israel DID force contraceptives on Ethiopian Jews to prevent them having chidlren. These are hard facts that are direct and obvious proof that Israel doesnt want Blacks. They are a burden and they have high crime rates.

And to further the point. Yes, the World Zionist Congress did initially aim to migrate Jews to Uganda but turned it down. Just because it didn't happen doesnt mean it wasn't thought about and motioned into progress. What sort of logic is that? So if a plan is scrapped that means it never existed? Are you really ashkenazi or are you one of the Ethiopian Jews? Ashkenazi are smarter than this.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

that's why we'v built a fence (120K of 7M is very high part of population).

It's barely 2%. They still commit higher crime rates, many of these people have been sterilised and others are being deported.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

i still belive integration is the key to get lowe crime and unemployment rates, as for south africa, as you said, the sanctions ruind their economy, so free markets fails there, socialism will help in their social problems, free market is one level higher.

No it isn't. There is ZERO proof of this. How did free markets fail when they had no access to markets? Not that I even believe in free markets. South Africa is MORE socialist post apartheid. As I said before, blacks have access to state preschool while whites do not. Whites WILL be taxed more and their assets will be seized.

Blacks cannot and have not ever run a country properly. There isnt a single country in the world other than the Bahamas with a higher success rate over whites and that is becuase the British set the country up as atax haven and a financial capital. They cannot farm their lands, they cannot run their governments, they commit massive crime rates, conduct pointless tribal warfare. To this day they still burn witches and create mass ghettos.

Intergration can never work. Only force works. The Irish and Italians settled in America because, firstly, they weren't Black. Secondly, they were treated like trash. This forced them to assimilate. Its why blacks pre civil rights had actual working famillies and employment. Its why blacks pre apartheid wore suits and spoke better.

White rule is always best. Always. There is no contradictory evidence to this because it is concrete fact. Dont bother replying with your nonsense because even your own country believes this. It bloody STERILIZIES its black populations while promoting Ashkenazi European Jews to move to Israel.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 12:07

Általa írva Guest, 10.12.2013 at 10:04

So guys, how bout' that next evolutionary step? You know, the one where we control ourselves from killing each other and embrace culture and individuality as opposed to greed and power?

Yu want to embrace culture AND individduality? As usual, you have no clue. Culture opposes individuality. Culture is a socialization of large groups. Individualism kills culture but individualism is a poison which causes lower birth rates so another culture dominates.

Individuality is greed and power. Its self interest.

You are such a child. Praising some terrorist and now you speak riddles of viewpoints whcih contradict eachother. You aren't smart, you aren't a special snowflake. You are an easily manipulated, emasculated child who spouts rhetoric from the media.

So I cannot be an individual within my own culture, or be an individual on the world stage, and express the teachings of my culture that make up my individuality? Logic = Fuck.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 14:37

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

Israel also planned to be founded in uganda, did it happen? nay, very low percent of what you read on the media will actually happen,

Oh please. Denying links when these is all admitted by the Israeli government? I gave enough sources and evidence. I dont need to justify it further. If you can't explain them, dont just deny them. These are facts. Admitted facts. Israel IS deporting Africna Migrants. The Africans DO COMMIT higher crime rates. Israel DID force contraceptives on Ethiopian Jews to prevent them having chidlren. These are hard facts that are direct and obvious proof that Israel doesnt want Blacks. They are a burden and they have high crime rates.

And to further the point. Yes, the World Zionist Congress did initially aim to migrate Jews to Uganda but turned it down. Just because it didn't happen doesnt mean it wasn't thought about and motioned into progress. What sort of logic is that? So if a plan is scrapped that means it never existed? Are you really ashkenazi or are you one of the Ethiopian Jews? Ashkenazi are smarter than this.[/qote]
ok let's explain few things

1. the only migrators 'deported' are people that belonged to south sudan when they founded, at coopeartion with south sudan government they have god a 'pack' to do fine in their homes - free flying ticket, 1000$, food, medicines and etc from Israel, and when you look at south sudan population you realize why it's important for them to get people back, no body was forced to get on the plane.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 14:37

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

that's why we'v built a fence (120K of 7M is very high part of population).

It's barely 2%. They still commit higher crime rates, many of these people have been sterilised and others are being deported.

yes, and now you are welcome to check how many "2% minitories" we have in Israel

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 14:37

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

i still belive integration is the key to get lowe crime and unemployment rates, as for south africa, as you said, the sanctions ruind their economy, so free markets fails there, socialism will help in their social problems, free market is one level higher.

No it isn't. There is ZERO proof of this. How did free markets fail when they had no access to markets? Not that I even believe in free markets. South Africa is MORE socialist post apartheid. As I said before, blacks have access to state preschool while whites do not. Whites WILL be taxed more and their assets will be seized.

since i don't know alot about south africa, i will shut up

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 14:37

Blacks cannot and have not ever run a country properly. There isnt a single country in the world other than the Bahamas with a higher success rate over whites and that is becuase the British set the country up as atax haven and a financial capital. They cannot farm their lands, they cannot run their governments, they commit massive crime rates, conduct pointless tribal warfare. To this day they still burn witches and create mass ghettos.

burn witches and create mass ghettos like the europeans did before they got cilived? i mean before they stole blacks'es rescures?

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 14:37

Intergration can never work. Only force works. The Irish and Italians settled in America because, firstly, they weren't Black. Secondly, they were treated like trash. This forced them to assimilate. Its why blacks pre civil rights had actual working famillies and employment. Its why blacks pre apartheid wore suits and spoke better.

force works only when it nesecery, when you start behave them like human being they will integrate, i'm learning in agriculural school and five years ago my school adopted hundreds of sudanians, we did'nt get along, and now we do, so if teenagers can get along together so mature people.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 14:37

White rule is always best. Always. There is no contradictory evidence to this because it is concrete fact. Dont bother replying with your nonsense because even your own country believes this. It bloody STERILIZIES its black populations while promoting Ashkenazi European Jews to move to Israel.

Israel allows all jews move to Israel, that's the idea of zionism, we closed the gate to west africa cus 120K from other culture was too much for us, nation of 7M cilivens in war status can't adopt more than that.

Guys, fucking stop with the political bullshit...you're all great people to talk to, whenever it has nothing to do with politics.

P.S - the "official source from the israeli government about deporting to uganda" was published in israeli paper called haaretzs, which is ultra liberal paper that addicted to daily provocations, that newspaper is getting sued thousands of times in a year and pays compensation of duzens of millions, as like all other papers and government subsidy always saves him (though it also gets donations from the lovely family saud), always when it is about to get closed it claims to be protector of democracy, if i were you i would'nt belive to any word from that paper.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

Press in Russia have to be supressed, because idiots are misusing it to trashtalk Russia, we are sick of it

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 13:42

A man who brought a true democracy and freedom to Russia,

Mind blowing. This is why you cant argue or debate. You cant see the gigantic contradictions in what you say. I agreed and said Democracy is terrible and that the reason why Russia is successful is because of he dicataor like policies which Putin holds then you cry and say he's democratic while executing journalists and supressing the press?

That isn't democratic or free. How are you so blind to that?

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

and we support Putins work

No you do, and I do. But alot of people don't but their views are supressed and loudmouths get a quiet bullet. That isn't democratic or free.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

news funded from abroad cannot work in Russia

Not democratic or free.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

We are tired of western lies how arabs are bad, have nukes, threat to the world, USA is good, bringing peace while invading Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya and Syria. We will read and watch normal news, with sane facts and normal arguments.

No YOU are. Not EVERYONE. Thats called a dictatorship. That is NOT democratic or free.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

We cannot afford to hold long debates with idiotic opposition these days, work has to be done first, economy recovered and quality of life raised.

Again, not democratic or free.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

We allow normal opposition which is totally or almost gone due to western funded trolls, criminals and idiot opposition. Young men of 20 years still virgin getting payed by CIA and MI6 trashtalking Russia isnt oppostion, but state enemy and therefore have to be removed, period.

Not democratic or Free. You cant slander your opposition and just say they are all CIA and deserve to be executed and THEN claim you are democratic and free.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

Normal opposition with normal but different views are allowed of course,

And how do you define Normal? Normal is different to people of differering political views.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

In USA, presidents are changing, but policy remains the same - conquer the world through financial system, economy and military using proxy wars, ruining countries and putting puppet governments who will obey every US desire.

In Russia, leadership never changes and policy remaisn the same. Rebuild Russian economy and slowly conquer neighbours through political and economic warfare or open assassination of their government while isntalling puppet governments who obey every Russian desire.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

Your system doesnt allow to leader to be on power more than 2 or 3 mandates, haha. Why would you change something if it is good? Wise leader should lead until he die or find someone even more clever to succeed him. If leader start making mess and act idiotic, national referrendum / impeachment will remove him, no problem. Thats why our democracy is working, and yours not.

It isn't a democracy. Ive said it a dozen times. Democracy is awful and dictators tend to work better. But you keep implying you are a democracy and you only say this because the west has pushed the idea that a democracy is good and dictators are bad. Honestly, it makes no sense how jumbled your views are.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

Pussy Riot desecrated a church! You cannot enter and scream in orthodox church. Some things you just dont do. Russian people is very religious, and have very close connection to the Church. That dates back in history, it is very strong tradition and part of culture. Only an retarded person would do that what pussy riot did, spoiled teenage girls, stupid and probably expelled from school, so got bored and start doing stupid videos. They got what they deserved, court was just, laws were fullfilled.

2 years for playing terrible music in a church? One was sent to Siberia. Again, I AGREE but that isn't democratic. That isnt FREE.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

There is no sign of police state, dictatorship, tyranism, repression and molesting in Russia. Since 2000, things are going great and bright future waits ahead

YOU ADMITTED IT. You said it yourself. Opposition is controlled. Only certain viewpoints allowed. You openly said that the media was supressed. That is a dictatorship. AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

But your views are normal, you cannot understand us, you are told we are bad red commies, and we will stay always Evil East for you.

He doesnt read my posts. Im certain of it. He doesnt read them and he just assumes my viewpoint. This guys cannot speak English so this conversation is pointless if he cant follow the basic concept of how a debate works.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

We know that, we cant change that, we dont want to change because we do not interfere and do not like to persuade other people otherwise.

This is amazing. People like this have not got a single clue about what they are talking about. Secret deals with Ukraine to prevent EU entering. The entire polish government executed for a 30 billion dollar gas deal and apparently russia hasnt done anything.

The worst part is I love the way Russia operates and he thinks I dont because he cant see outside his own bubble.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 14:55

you are not good in our eyes as well, you colonized almost whole africa and south asia

So did Russia across ALL of Asia. White rule is best.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 15:11

P.S - the "official source from the israeli government about deporting to uganda" was published in israeli paper called haaretzs, which is ultra liberal paper that addicted to daily provocations, that newspaper is getting sued thousands of times in a year and pays compensation of duzens of millions, as like all other papers and government subsidy always saves him (though it also gets donations from the lovely family saud), always when it is about to get closed it claims to be protector of democracy, if i were you i would'nt belive to any word from that paper.

The source is from the World Zionist Congress in the late 1880s. Not some modern Jewish media outlet. Why is moving to Uganda so controversial? It was a British protectorate and mostly empty. The Jews didn't want it, they wanted Palestine.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 15:21

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 15:11

P.S - the "official source from the israeli government about deporting to uganda" was published in israeli paper called haaretzs, which is ultra liberal paper that addicted to daily provocations, that newspaper is getting sued thousands of times in a year and pays compensation of duzens of millions, as like all other papers and government subsidy always saves him (though it also gets donations from the lovely family saud), always when it is about to get closed it claims to be protector of democracy, if i were you i would'nt belive to any word from that paper.

The source is from the World Zionist Congress in the late 1880s. Not some modern Jewish media outlet. Why is moving to Uganda so controversial? It was a British protectorate and mostly empty. The Jews didn't want it, they wanted Palestine.

i talked about that thing http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/29/us-israel-migrants-africa-idUSBRE97S18Z20130829

and no, there is a quote of egyptian general in the forthees "palestine is invention of the zionists", if not the zionism, that region would stay the poor part of syria or smth.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

1. the only migrators 'deported' are people that belonged to south sudan when they founded, at coopeartion with south sudan government they have god a 'pack' to do fine in their homes - free flying ticket, 1000$, food, medicines and etc from Israel, and when you look at south sudan population you realize why it's important for them to get people back, no body was forced to get on the plane.

I never said they were forced. I said they were born criminals. Israle agress becuase they are deporting them and sterilising other blacks.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

yes, and now you are welcome to check how many "2% minitories" we have in Israel

YOU specified Ethiopians which Israel sterlisied to stop them breeding.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

burn witches and create mass ghettos like the europeans did before they got cilived? i mean before they stole blacks'es rescures?

We hung witches, we didnt burn them and it was a specific period of European history. They were rarely burned and there is little of evidence of mass executions. The numbers are quite small, other witches got a slap on the wrist. Mnay of them were actual witches and practied criminal acts. Europe has been advanced for thosuands of years, from the Roman Empire to the Celts and Germanics who built the roads Rome then claimed as their own. Evne the slavs had their Khans and toppled a Byzatine Emperor. Europe 2000 years ago was more advanced than Africa pre colonialism. Colonialism advanced Africa and it only fell apart once whites left becuase Blacks cannot rule.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

force works only when it nesecery, when you start behave them like human being they will integrate,

Pointless term. Human being has different meanings. Seeing as 50,000 years of human history was violence, Im going to call this a modern and utterly undefined term. Dont use it again.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

i'm learning in agriculural school and five years ago my school adopted hundreds of sudanians, we did'nt get along, and now we do, so if teenagers can get along together so mature people.

These are not citizens, there are very few and they will all likely go back home.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

Israel allows all jews move to Israel, that's the idea of zionism, we closed the gate to west africa cus 120K from other culture was too much for us, nation of 7M cilivens in war status can't adopt more than that.

No, Blacks are terrible Immigrants and are a major burden which is why Israel opens its borders to European Jews. Israel is not a land of Jews, it is a land of White Jews.

White rule is best.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 15:46

i talked about that thing http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/29/us-israel-migrants-africa-idUSBRE97S18Z20130829

It is true. They originally wanted to send them to Australia but a few friends and I managed to prevent that by alerting australian media to talks between Israel and an Australian MP planning such a deal. Uganda was the next. The fact is, Israel wants them gone and they will be gone soon enough.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 15:46

and no, there is a quote of egyptian general in the forthees "palestine is invention of the zionists", if not the zionism, that region would stay the poor part of syria or smth.

How is that even relevant? I agree, but it wasn't Zionism that made the area wealthy. It was constant funding from the USA, Europe and Australia. If not for the West, Israel would have been conquered by Arabs decades ago, let alone have a wealthy economy built on aid and German reparations.

Regardless, you just justified colonialism by claiming you brought a better quality of life which is exactly what we Europeans did to Africa.

Általa írva Guest, 10.12.2013 at 15:04

Guys, fucking stop with the political bullshit...you're all great people to talk to, whenever it has nothing to do with politics.

Stop crying. It's not my fault you people are ignroant of the facts.

We have you, claiming Mandela was this Great man of Peace and then suddenly changing your view when I called you out on it.

Then we have Tito, who claims Freedom adn Democracy is suppressing the press, executing members who speka out and openly rigging elections by preventing political opponents having any power. All fo which I actually agree with to an extent and yet he think's Im brainwashed by western media I detest.

And then we have Mister Style, adding his own little twisted and toxic viewpoint filled to the brim with hypocrisy similar to Tito but with a relish of Zionistic patriotism quagmired in lies and anecdotes with no proof.

Beating down these talking points is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 15:47

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

1. the only migrators 'deported' are people that belonged to south sudan when they founded, at coopeartion with south sudan government they have god a 'pack' to do fine in their homes - free flying ticket, 1000$, food, medicines and etc from Israel, and when you look at south sudan population you realize why it's important for them to get people back, no body was forced to get on the plane.

I never said they were forced. I said they were born criminals. Israle agress becuase they are deporting them and sterilising other blacks.
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no one was deported, there were south sudanians that got attractive offer to get back to their homeland, the israeli media followed them there for a while, and many of them used they many they'v earned in Israel to open succesfull buisness.

as for south sudan, Israel agreed to help them to get it citizens back, which helped them, and you have to ralize one thing, Israel desperately seeks for allies in middle east and the region around it, since Israel retrated from lebanon our only ally SAL was destroyed (the west could be wise sometimes), when south sudan was founded they delcared they want to be allies of Israel, since it Israel sent advisor at military and agriculutre, encouraged returning of south sudanians to their homeland, and gave huge benifits at taxing to israeli corps that will invest/start working in south sudan, nowdays south sudan is the only country in the world that recnoises jerusalem as the capital of Israel, and it built its embassy there, if Israel would deport them as you said, it woul'dnt happen.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

yes, and now you are welcome to check how many "2% minitories" we have in Israel

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 15:47

YOU specified Ethiopians which Israel sterlisied to stop them breeding.

the birthrate of ethiopians in Israel proves other thing, ethiopians have full right.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 15:47

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

burn witches and create mass ghettos like the europeans did before they got cilived? i mean before they stole blacks'es rescures?

We hung witches, we didnt burn them and it was a specific period of European history. They were rarely burned and there is little of evidence of mass executions. The numbers are quite small, other witches got a slap on the wrist. Mnay of them were actual witches and practied criminal acts. Europe has been advanced for thosuands of years, from the Roman Empire to the Celts and Germanics who built the roads Rome then claimed as their own. Evne the slavs had their Khans and toppled a Byzatine Emperor. Europe 2000 years ago was more advanced than Africa pre colonialism. Colonialism advanced Africa and it only fell apart once whites left becuase Blacks cannot rule.

yea it has nothing to do with mass enslaving and rescures stealing.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 15:47

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

force works only when it nesecery, when you start behave them like human being they will integrate,

Pointless term. Human being has different meanings. Seeing as 50,000 years of human history was violence, Im going to call this a modern and utterly undefined term. Dont use it again.

and the real advance of humanity started when we stoped using violence as perfect solution for everything.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 15:47

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

i'm learning in agriculural school and five years ago my school adopted hundreds of sudanians, we did'nt get along, and now we do, so if teenagers can get along together so mature people.

These are not citizens, there are very few and they will all likely go back home.

they are christians from south sudan, if they wanted they could do it easily, but they prefered to stay in Israel.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 15:47

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 14:10

Israel allows all jews move to Israel, that's the idea of zionism, we closed the gate to west africa cus 120K from other culture was too much for us, nation of 7M cilivens in war status can't adopt more than that.

No, Blacks are terrible Immigrants and are a major burden which is why Israel opens its borders to European Jews. Israel is not a land of Jews, it is a land of White Jews.

if Israel does'nt want black jews, why did Israel risk soldiers life and 80% of our air force aircraft to save the jews of ethiopia from new muslim dictatorship?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Solomon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Moses

i gues you'v never been in Israel, the intergration of the ethiopians worked.

i'm not white jew, and i'm not feeling deprived, if you really think the white man rules Israel, you probably don't really know anything about it.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 15:47

White rule is best.

you are sick

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 15:53

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 15:46

i talked about that thing http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/29/us-israel-migrants-africa-idUSBRE97S18Z20130829

It is true. They originally wanted to send them to Australia but a few friends and I managed to prevent that by alerting australian media to talks between Israel and an Australian MP planning such a deal. Uganda was the next. The fact is, Israel wants them gone and they will be gone soon enough.

if you really think so, bring my it's original source from the Israeli media.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 15:53

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 15:46

and no, there is a quote of egyptian general in the forthees "palestine is invention of the zionists", if not the zionism, that region would stay the poor part of syria or smth.

How is that even relevant? I agree, but it wasn't Zionism that made the area wealthy. It was constant funding from the USA, Europe and Australia. If not for the West, Israel would have been conquered by Arabs decades ago, let alone have a wealthy economy built on aid and German reparations.

yea, you forget the simple detail, that land did'nt belong to the arabs, most of the arabs migrated there thanks to zionism, islam rised on the ruins of cilivations it has destoryed.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 15:53

Regardless, you just justified colonialism by claiming you brought a better quality of life which is exactly what we Europeans did to Africa.

Israel is a diffrent story.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 15:57

Általa írva Guest, 10.12.2013 at 15:04

Guys, fucking stop with the political bullshit...you're all great people to talk to, whenever it has nothing to do with politics.

Stop crying. It's not my fault you people are ignroant of the facts.

We have you, claiming Mandela was this Great man of Peace and then suddenly changing your view when I called you out on it.

Then we have Tito, who claims Freedom adn Democracy is suppressing the press, executing members who speka out and openly rigging elections by preventing political opponents having any power. All fo which I actually agree with to an extent and yet he think's Im brainwashed by western media I detest.

And then we have Mister Style, adding his own little twisted and toxic viewpoint filled to the brim with hypocrisy similar to Tito but with a relish of Zionistic patriotism quagmired in lies and anecdotes with no proof.

Beating down these talking points is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel.

I NEVER CLAIMED HE WAS A MAN OF PEACE YOU UNSOPHISTICATED, INSULAR, SACK OF BETA-TIER SHIT. STOP FUCKING ARGUING, STOP ACTING LIKE YOUR OPINION IS THE ONLY VALID ONE, AND EMBRACE THE FACT THAT YOU CANNOT ALWAYS BE RIGHT OR JUST, IN A WORLD WHERE EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE TO YOUR OWN DAMN PHANERON, AND CONFLICT ONLY ARISES WHEN YOU FORGET THAT. GOD FUCKING DAMN, YOU RUIN EVERY FUCKING THREAD ON THIS SITE WITH YOUR GODDAMN NATIONAL SOCIALIST PROPAGANDA, DO YOU SEE ME SHOVING MY FAGGOTRY DOWN EVERYONE'S FUCKING THROATS??? DO I GO AROUND PROCLAIMING THAT I AM THE SOLE SOURCE OF AUTHORITY, AND THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG? NO, I ACCEPT EVERYONE FOR THEIR FUCKING DIFFERENCES, AND KEEP MY MIND OPEN TO LITERALLY EVERYONE'S OPINION, INCLUDING YOURS. NOW, STOP FUCKING POSTING ON THIS GODDAMN THREAD, AND GO DO SOMETHING ELSE.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 16:03

nowdays south sudan is the only country in the world that recnoises jerusalem as the capital of Israel, and it built its embassy there, if Israel would deport them as you said, it woul'dnt happen.

As I said. They didnt want them as citizens. You are goign way off topic as usual to defer from the fact that you original point was bogus. Israel doesnt want them.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 16:03

the birthrate of ethiopians in Israel proves other thing, ethiopians have full right.

By sterlising them by force? Israel would like nothing more than to get rid of them.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 16:03

yea it has nothing to do with mass enslaving and rescures stealing.

Im amazed that you are stealing pushing guilt. It never ceases to amaze me to watch you go. You can lie and openly contradict yourself. You can justify your own imperialism but its only wrong when others do it. If Whites remained, Africa would have remained prosperous. Why? Becuase Blacks cant rule? I asked you to PROVE that Blacks can rule better. You have shown nothing of a sort. It is a FACT that if Whites remained Africas rulers, its progress would ahve continued. Africa was a giant dungheap before Europeans and Arabs colonized it.

And AS I SAID BEFORE. Your Jewish ancestors were only too happy to send slaves from Africa to America for your cotton fields. JEWS were the slaveowners and slavetraders. So dont guilt me, I feel no guilt. I am proud of my ancestors being conquerers. You lie and scheme about the actions of yours. How typical.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 16:03

and the real advance of humanity started when we stoped using violence as perfect solution for everything.

Violence still is the perfect solution for conflict. Conflict remains, in economic warfare. The ONLY thing that has stopped conflict is nuclear weaponry and that wont stop conflict. China, Japan and Korea WILL go to war over the South China Sea. Humanity is defined by its conflict and use of violence. It always will be. Nature is violence.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 16:03

they are christians from south sudan, if they wanted they could do it easily, but they prefered to stay in Israel.

Because Sudan is a hellhole. Only the British and Egyptians were able to keep those nutters in check. Africans were climing barbed wire fences to get into Spain. SPAIN during a debt crisis with 25% unemployment. I cna only imagine the hell Africans have, created by themslves of course and wherever they go, their hell spreads with them.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 16:03

if Israel does'nt want black jews, why did Israel risk soldiers life and 80% of our air force aircraft to save the jews of ethiopia from new muslim dictatorship?

Self interest. As you JUST SAID, co operation with South Sudan is used for Israeli advantage. WHy would Israel want Ethiopia to be under Arab control? Out of the goodness of their own heart? No, their self itnerest. And what solved that problem? VIOLENCE.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 16:03

i gues you'v never been in Israel, the intergration of the ethiopians worked.

Thats why Israel sterilised them by force.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 16:03

i'm not white jew, and i'm not feeling deprived, if you really think the white man rules Israel, you probably don't really know anything about it.

Netanyahu looks pretty damn white. Mostly semetic but European as fuck. Are you an Ethiopian Jew or Sephardic? I bet you are Ethiopian. Lol.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 16:03

you are sick

But hating arabs, sterilising ethiopians, bombing palestinians, stealing more land and enforcing your culture on others is totally fine.

I rest my case. You are so terrible at this. The only person here who has any logicla thought and can actually give a good debate is CD. You are hypocrites of the worst kind. Pretending you believe in good and evil, playing this fantasy of western values while doing the complete opposite while DARING to claim I am awful for being open about it.

I asked you before. White rules is best rule. Prove me wrong.

You can't.

Általa írva Guest, 10.12.2013 at 16:08

I NEVER CLAIMED HE WAS A MAN OF PEACE YOU UNSOPHISTICATED, INSULAR, SACK OF BETA-TIER SHIT. STOP FUCKING ARGUING, STOP ACTING LIKE YOUR OPINION IS THE ONLY VALID ONE, AND EMBRACE THE FACT THAT YOU CANNOT ALWAYS BE RIGHT OR JUST, IN A WORLD WHERE EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE TO YOUR OWN DAMN PHANERON, AND CONFLICT ONLY ARISES WHEN YOU FORGET THAT. GOD FUCKING DAMN, YOU RUIN EVERY FUCKING THREAD ON THIS SITE WITH YOUR GODDAMN NATIONAL SOCIALIST PROPAGANDA, DO YOU SEE ME SHOVING MY FAGGOTRY DOWN EVERYONE'S FUCKING THROATS??? DO I GO AROUND PROCLAIMING THAT I AM THE SOLE SOURCE OF AUTHORITY, AND THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG? NO, I ACCEPT EVERYONE FOR THEIR FUCKING DIFFERENCES, AND KEEP MY MIND OPEN TO LITERALLY EVERYONE'S OPINION, INCLUDING YOURS. NOW, STOP FUCKING POSTING ON THIS GODDAMN THREAD, AND GO DO SOMETHING ELSE.

All this mad beta. Not worth reading.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 16:07

if you really think so, bring my it's original source from the Israeli media.

Yeah I do. Israelis dont want the sudanese becuase they are terrible immigrants. End of story.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 16:07

yea, you forget the simple detail, that land did'nt belong to the arabs, most of the arabs migrated there thanks to zionism, islam rised on the ruins of cilivations it has destoryed.

It belonged to the Ottoman Empire which was forced to give it to the British EMpire which then gave it to Jews. The majority that lived there were Arabs. This is a fact.

Általa írva Rock Lee, 10.12.2013 at 16:07

Israel is a diffrent story.

ITS OK WHEN WE DO IT. BUT YOU ARE SICK IF YOU DO IT. Now Im going to make this thread about Israel like I do in every discussion.

ISRAEL ISRAEL ISRAEL
WE NEVER DO ANYTHING BAD BUT WHITES ARE EVIL. THEY ARE SICK SICK SICK.

Tito might be an annoying hypocrite but he's nowhere near as bad as you. Same story. I'm great, I cna be an imperialist but if you do it, its wrong. Boring.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 10.12.2013 at 16:25

Általa írva Guest, 10.12.2013 at 16:08

I NEVER CLAIMED HE WAS A MAN OF PEACE YOU UNSOPHISTICATED, INSULAR, SACK OF BETA-TIER SHIT. STOP FUCKING ARGUING, STOP ACTING LIKE YOUR OPINION IS THE ONLY VALID ONE, AND EMBRACE THE FACT THAT YOU CANNOT ALWAYS BE RIGHT OR JUST, IN A WORLD WHERE EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE TO YOUR OWN DAMN PHANERON, AND CONFLICT ONLY ARISES WHEN YOU FORGET THAT. GOD FUCKING DAMN, YOU RUIN EVERY FUCKING THREAD ON THIS SITE WITH YOUR GODDAMN NATIONAL SOCIALIST PROPAGANDA, DO YOU SEE ME SHOVING MY FAGGOTRY DOWN EVERYONE'S FUCKING THROATS??? DO I GO AROUND PROCLAIMING THAT I AM THE SOLE SOURCE OF AUTHORITY, AND THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG? NO, I ACCEPT EVERYONE FOR THEIR FUCKING DIFFERENCES, AND KEEP MY MIND OPEN TO LITERALLY EVERYONE'S OPINION, INCLUDING YOURS. NOW, STOP FUCKING POSTING ON THIS GODDAMN THREAD, AND GO DO SOMETHING ELSE.

All this mad beta. Not worth reading.

I'VE SIDED WITH YOU THE ENTIRE TIME I'VE BEEN BACK, AND HAVE TAKEN EVERY WORD YOUVE TOLD ME TO HEART, YET YOU CANNOT EVEN READ A SINGLE WORD I SAY WITHOUT TELLING ME I'M WRONG?

Általa írva Guest, 10.12.2013 at 16:30

I'VE SIDED WITH YOU THE ENTIRE TIME I'VE BEEN BACK, AND HAVE TAKEN EVERY WORD YOUVE TOLD ME TO HEART, YET YOU CANNOT EVEN READ A SINGLE WORD I SAY WITHOUT TELLING ME I'M WRONG?

Because you are. When someone claims they support democracy and freedom while murdering journalists and preventing political opponents hold office, they are a hypocrite.

When someone claims that their country represents good intergrational values and sterlisies and deports its immigrant populations, they are a hypocrite.

When someone who comes from a Empire or an ethnic tribe which uses violence and imperialism to aquire land and resources but then tells other people who belong to a different ethnic tribe and ancestral Empire that doing the same thing is wrong while doing it thsemelves is entirely justified. They are hypocrites.

There is no opinion here. Economics can be opinionated. Politics can be very opinionated. But claiming one thing while doing another is not just an opinion. It is hypocrisy, it is bullshit, it would be called lying if they weren't so far from an objective viewpoint that they literally cant see their own shit actually DOES stink.

Általa írva Skanderbeg, 10.12.2013 at 16:50

More rhetoric which completely ignores all previous points because I cant be bothered to read what was said because I am too far up my own bum to care or I cannot read English very well so I'll just guess most of it. Take your pick, Tik.

Ill take option two, Tito.

Sometimes, I wonder what Tik does when he is not on AtWar. Maybe drawing hearts around Adolf Hitler or writing in his diary about how much of a loser he is and has to go online to pretend he is God. Good job Tik on ruining another thread.

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