Rank Inflation

Általa írva Zephyrusu, 04.05.2016 at 17:35

Általa írva Cpt.Magic, 04.05.2016 at 17:50

with games like this, who wants to play? (The only open games in lobby)

Ultimate Vietnam War is not RP, it's a scenario. I'm sorta friends with the mapmaker and he'd be pretty pissed if he learned you called his map RP. Thing is, though, that Vietnam map, which needs 6 players, doesn't fill, while RP, WW1, Ancient World and all that shit that need 10 or even 20 players do. People choose to play shit because shit is easy to play, gives much SP and fills easily, therefore cancerous maps like that are killing atWar, However, even if the mapmakers of those said maps somehow magically decided to take them all down, nothing would change, because some people are either so playwhore or so determined to get their dose of cancer that they'll just copy those mapmakers' concepts, make some shitty replicas that are going to be played anyway, and still not play anything else. I'm in the clan of the people who made WW1, taking it down has been discussed before and has been attempted temporarily, yet Aetius doen't take it down because he says that if noobs don't go to WW1, they'll go to RP, and he's right.

All in all it boils down to Tempted, who created RP, and Cpt. Magic, who created UN, thus serving the former an entire playerbase on a silver platter. Fuck you two.

The quotes above should be a introduction to the issue that atwar is facing right now, the current atwar market is lead by custom maps that give too much or easy SP and therefore force all other maps to generate the same amount of SP or perish. This cancerous atwar market has inflated the ranks to dangerous proportions, yet instead of fixing the issue at hand by getting rid of all this SP farming maps, the competitive community decided to boost clan war SP by 2, effectively inflating the ranks even more.

So far i been told that the best way to fix this issue is by making all custom maps to have a 0% SP modifier by default, and only changing this once the individual map has been mod approved. Does anybody disagree with this? if so explain why.

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Általa írva Cpt.Magic, 04.05.2016 at 17:50

The quotes above should be a introduction to the issue that atwar is facing right now, the current atwar market is lead by custom maps that give too much or easy SP and therefore force all other maps to generate the same amount of SP or perish. This cancerous atwar market has inflated the ranks to dangerous proportions, yet instead of fixing the issue at hand by getting rid of all this SP farming maps, the competitive community decided to boost clan war SP by 2, effectively inflating the ranks even more.

So far i been told that the best way to fix this issue is by making all custom maps to have a 0% SP modifier by default, and only changing this once the individual map has been mod approved. Does anybody disagree with this? if so explain why.

Yes, I agree with some of your points. I have proposed officially approved maps -we will see what happens with that, a 0% SP multiplayer on unapproved maps can be taken into consideration too. Nevertheless, I think you would be surprised at the remaining popularity of these so called sp farms even with a 0% multiplyer. Afterall a lot these maps don't require any upgrades.

Általa írva Cpt.Magic, 04.05.2016 at 17:50

This cancerous atwar market has inflated the ranks to dangerous proportions, yet instead of fixing the issue at hand by getting rid of all this SP farming maps, the competitive community decided to boost clan war SP by 2, effectively inflating the ranks even more.

I agree that maps should'be regulated. A preventive 75% of the SP won't hurt (I believe that 0% is way too extreme).

OK I can't find my old post, but it was about necessary map review by mods to prevent this kind of cancer.

All maps should start at 0 sp, and after being tested by moderation be given the go ahead of having 10%-100% sp multiplier added to them.

I agree with some sort of moderation for new published maps. I would even suggest blocking the possibility of dueling in those same maps until confirmed they have no invisible tricks.

I'm not sure reducing SP is going to fix the issue. It's going to help, but not completely fix it. The main problem is not that such maps give much SP, it's that such maps give much SP EASILY. Because honestly, a mentally retarded 5-year-old can play RP no problem, by allying half the globe, and also WW1, if his teammates explain him what he needs to do (which takes 2 minutes at worst). Meanwhile, other maps and scenarios and also default map require you to use your brain. Since the majority of the world finds it an ordeal to use their brain, they find it appealing to play and win in RP and WW1, which require little to no mental capabilities.

PPL will alway ally fag rpor not rp,i play all kinds of games, so only no ally fagging is in 1 ally games, or forced scenaraios but when dont have winning side they will quit.......

Difference is, in RP, allyfag is considered perfectly ok, while in other maps it's taboo

Általa írva MURAD IV, 05.05.2016 at 15:13

PPL will alway ally fag rpor not rp,i play all kinds of games, so only no ally fagging is in 1 ally games, or forced scenaraios but when dont have winning side they will quit.......

i don't think you understood my post, please read it again.

Általa írva Cpt.Magic, 05.05.2016 at 15:16

Általa írva MURAD IV, 05.05.2016 at 15:13

PPL will alway ally fag rpor not rp,i play all kinds of games, so only no ally fagging is in 1 ally games, or forced scenaraios but when dont have winning side they will quit.......

i don't think you understood my post, please read it again.

i agree with yours first post, i upvoted, this was just comment about allyfagging

Ultimate Vietnam War is not an RP