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Küldte Aleph One, 18.10.2014 - 21:03
Now that the SP reduction is in place, it seems like a victory for those who hated RP and thought it was dragging away new players from games and creating high ranked noobs. While the latter is finally combated, statistics show that RP was created only 2 days after a game such as Ancient World, and has only had 9710 plays, whereas Ancient world has more than double that; 19146 plays. A Song of Ice and Fire is almost on par with RP, and was only created 2 months before it. Not to mention that it has been almost 2 years for each respective map mentioned. I won't even add the insanely huge amount of world plays that have been recorded.

In essence, it's now the time to reflect on the implications and real situations that have happened before the multiplier and what will happen during the introduction. Role Play was mainly protested due to SP farming, but there were also numerous about Role Play stealing away the community base, when in reality, the community has still been there. Concluding, while this surely has 'deadened' the community who plays for SP farming, the complete 'deadening' of Role Play isn't needed.
22.10.2014 - 15:57
Általa írva Htin, 21.10.2014 at 17:53

Általa írva Aleph One, 21.10.2014 at 15:59

Általa írva Htin, 20.10.2014 at 15:01

Általa írva Aleph One, 19.10.2014 at 18:24

Általa írva Htin, 19.10.2014 at 18:16

Általa írva Aleph One, 19.10.2014 at 17:49

You all just completely blew off the statistics. Role play was made only 2 days after Ancient World, and has more than double the plays. And you still say that this proves nothing, that players continue to play Role Play so much that the community mostly plays that? You can even see for yourselves; Ancient world of created 12/2/2012, Role Play began with Tempted's Role Play, which began 12/4/2012. Even Adog's RP doesn't have 1k plays.

The most played UN game(Cronus) has less than 5k. Combined with the next 13 other UN-type games, doesn't even make 7.5k plays. Combined with RP, both are still less than Ancient world, and that's just ONE map.

Általa írva Permamuted, 18.10.2014 at 23:26

another odd thread, this just calls into question the motivations behind players flocking to certain maps, is it the sp? or do they truly enjoy the map. If rp goes dead because of this, you have your answer.


This calls into question how much each map is played, with UN(14 versions) and RP(2 versions) not equaling up to 1 map(Ancient World). So it's to refute the claim that the player base prefers RP and UN and diplomacy games over games like Ancient world, world games, etc.

Keep in mind, RP and UN and a very small sector of the vast amount of maps that don't use diplomacy, including scenarios. So, those who play RP and UN without playing others, are the very small minority, and those who play RP and UN mixed with other games, can still be the minority, as the plays of other games and scenarios are still larger than diplomacy maps.

rp is not dead, low rank like you abuse it to get extra SP. it took me 3 fucking year to get to my rank 11 why it took Opi, the rp fag, 4 month to reach rank 10. rp didn't change it just reeduce the exploit so stop cry.


Nice trolling. I don't use RP to rank up, and hardly worry about ranking up in the first place, and I've played this game since November 9, 2012.

Again, you miss the point of my thread, and go to a personal attack because you obviously can't distinguish a thread about "RP being penalized and oppressed" from a thread giving you statistics on why bashers like you can't get a grip and understand that the community wasn't going en masse to RP, and still played games much more than just RP, and the community wasn't dying. I never said once that I didn't agree with the reduction, but what I don't agree with is the fact that people who hate RP think it's true to say that the community only played RP and mostly RP and that those who didn't play it were the minority, when it's completely false.

Why are you sadden by the sp reduction of rp. RP didn't change anything but equalize the amount f sp per game with other map. since you can make ton of sp in that map. Are you whining that you can't farm rp anymore?

I literally just said "I never once said that I didn't agree with the reduction".

why don't you agree? does that mean i can make cities highly dense with 10 reinfocrcement and name it roleplay. that call sp farming

Let me respond to this one last time in a re-phrased way more suitable for you; I agree with the SP reduction. "I never(1st negative) once said that I didn't(2nd negative, turns it positive) agree with the reduction" translates to(literally) "I once said that I agree with the reduction", or in other terms, "I agree with the reduction".

I never enjoyed the fact of gaining a huge amount of SP whenever I happened to play RP, and yet, that's not what this topic is about, it is about the fact that RP total plays never exceeded those of Ancient world, and even combined with UN, doesn't exceed the Ancient world game total plays.

So please, try to stop convicting me of something I didn't say on a post not relevant to the conviction.
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22.10.2014 - 16:21
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Általa írva Aleph One, 22.10.2014 at 15:57

Általa írva Htin, 21.10.2014 at 17:53

Általa írva Aleph One, 21.10.2014 at 15:59

Általa írva Htin, 20.10.2014 at 15:01

Általa írva Aleph One, 19.10.2014 at 18:24

Általa írva Htin, 19.10.2014 at 18:16

Általa írva Aleph One, 19.10.2014 at 17:49

You all just completely blew off the statistics. Role play was made only 2 days after Ancient World, and has more than double the plays. And you still say that this proves nothing, that players continue to play Role Play so much that the community mostly plays that? You can even see for yourselves; Ancient world of created 12/2/2012, Role Play began with Tempted's Role Play, which began 12/4/2012. Even Adog's RP doesn't have 1k plays.

The most played UN game(Cronus) has less than 5k. Combined with the next 13 other UN-type games, doesn't even make 7.5k plays. Combined with RP, both are still less than Ancient world, and that's just ONE map.

Általa írva Permamuted, 18.10.2014 at 23:26

another odd thread, this just calls into question the motivations behind players flocking to certain maps, is it the sp? or do they truly enjoy the map. If rp goes dead because of this, you have your answer.


This calls into question how much each map is played, with UN(14 versions) and RP(2 versions) not equaling up to 1 map(Ancient World). So it's to refute the claim that the player base prefers RP and UN and diplomacy games over games like Ancient world, world games, etc.

Keep in mind, RP and UN and a very small sector of the vast amount of maps that don't use diplomacy, including scenarios. So, those who play RP and UN without playing others, are the very small minority, and those who play RP and UN mixed with other games, can still be the minority, as the plays of other games and scenarios are still larger than diplomacy maps.

rp is not dead, low rank like you abuse it to get extra SP. it took me 3 fucking year to get to my rank 11 why it took Opi, the rp fag, 4 month to reach rank 10. rp didn't change it just reeduce the exploit so stop cry.


Nice trolling. I don't use RP to rank up, and hardly worry about ranking up in the first place, and I've played this game since November 9, 2012.

Again, you miss the point of my thread, and go to a personal attack because you obviously can't distinguish a thread about "RP being penalized and oppressed" from a thread giving you statistics on why bashers like you can't get a grip and understand that the community wasn't going en masse to RP, and still played games much more than just RP, and the community wasn't dying. I never said once that I didn't agree with the reduction, but what I don't agree with is the fact that people who hate RP think it's true to say that the community only played RP and mostly RP and that those who didn't play it were the minority, when it's completely false.

Why are you sadden by the sp reduction of rp. RP didn't change anything but equalize the amount f sp per game with other map. since you can make ton of sp in that map. Are you whining that you can't farm rp anymore?

I literally just said "I never once said that I didn't agree with the reduction".

why don't you agree? does that mean i can make cities highly dense with 10 reinfocrcement and name it roleplay. that call sp farming

Let me respond to this one last time in a re-phrased way more suitable for you; I agree with the SP reduction. "I never(1st negative) once said that I didn't(2nd negative, turns it positive) agree with the reduction" translates to(literally) "I once said that I agree with the reduction", or in other terms, "I agree with the reduction".

I never enjoyed the fact of gaining a huge amount of SP whenever I happened to play RP, and yet, that's not what this topic is about, it is about the fact that RP total plays never exceeded those of Ancient world, and even combined with UN, doesn't exceed the Ancient world game total plays.

So please, try to stop convicting me of something I didn't say on a post not relevant to the conviction.

Hell i see RP 24/7 and ancient was older than rp. and rp plays is growing exponentially
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22.10.2014 - 17:07
Általa írva Htin, 22.10.2014 at 16:21

Hell i see RP 24/7 and ancient was older than rp. and rp plays is growing exponentially

Ancient was older only by 2 days. And while you see more RP now, there were periods where RP wasn't there, or was minimal in appearance. It had it's blooms and falls like every other map. In the end, it shows that with over 19,000 plays for Ancient World, and RP with a little over 7,000, RP wasn't pulling the majority of the community into the gameplay.
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22.10.2014 - 17:11
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Általa írva Aleph One, 22.10.2014 at 17:07

Általa írva Htin, 22.10.2014 at 16:21

Hell i see RP 24/7 and ancient was older than rp. and rp plays is growing exponentially

Ancient was older only by 2 days. And while you see more RP now, there were periods where RP wasn't there, or was minimal in appearance. It had it's blooms and falls like every other map. In the end, it shows that with over 19,000 plays for Ancient World, and RP with a little over 7,000, RP wasn't pulling the majority of the community into the gameplay.

During that time Rp was still in its early stages ready to topple UN. SO your point is yu support sp reduction of reduction right? then the conversation is over
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22.10.2014 - 17:14
Általa írva Htin, 22.10.2014 at 17:11

Általa írva Aleph One, 22.10.2014 at 17:07

Általa írva Htin, 22.10.2014 at 16:21

Hell i see RP 24/7 and ancient was older than rp. and rp plays is growing exponentially

Ancient was older only by 2 days. And while you see more RP now, there were periods where RP wasn't there, or was minimal in appearance. It had it's blooms and falls like every other map. In the end, it shows that with over 19,000 plays for Ancient World, and RP with a little over 7,000, RP wasn't pulling the majority of the community into the gameplay.

During that time Rp was still in its early stages ready to topple UN. SO your point is yu support sp reduction of reduction right? then the conversation is over

...No, that's not it at all...
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22.10.2014 - 17:42
Általa írva Aleph One, 21.10.2014 at 16:05

Általa írva Tundy, 19.10.2014 at 20:23

Általa írva Aleph One, 19.10.2014 at 19:28

-BS-


Your post makes no sense, I don't see the point that you are trying to make, please be more specific.

Maps have way more plays than scenarios, is natural as scenarios require up to 20 people to start, while maps only require 2 people. The most Popular (non-rp) custom map is Acient World with 20,000 plays, while the most popular custom scenario has 3000 plays.

Facts:
Ancient World has more plays than the 20 most played custom scenarios combined.
World Map has more plays than all the custom scenarios combined and multiplied by a thousand.
World Map has more plays than all custom maps combined.

I really dont understand where you are confused. I've said that Ancient world is not a scenario, and has more than 19,000 plays, whereas role-play has almost 8,000 plays. Role-Play isn't a scenario, either.

Thus, it's not right to think that the community is mostly just Role-players who tried to deaden the community. People, before the SP reduction, made a lot of excuses on how RP is bad, not excluding the fact that they believe RP is played more often by the community than other maps. Ancient world, and I'm sure likewise with other maps, proves this false. I want to make sure that this idea is cleared up.

Understand the reason for this post?


As i said early, RP wasn't publish until around June of 2013, while ancient world was released within a month of bring created. RP had like 1500 plays on December of 2013, the fact that RP plays increased 500% in plays within 6 months is scary, at this rate RP will outplay ancient world by summer of 2015.
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22.10.2014 - 18:31
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Általa írva Tundy, 22.10.2014 at 17:42

Általa írva Aleph One, 21.10.2014 at 16:05

Általa írva Tundy, 19.10.2014 at 20:23

Általa írva Aleph One, 19.10.2014 at 19:28

-BS-


Your post makes no sense, I don't see the point that you are trying to make, please be more specific.

Maps have way more plays than scenarios, is natural as scenarios require up to 20 people to start, while maps only require 2 people. The most Popular (non-rp) custom map is Acient World with 20,000 plays, while the most popular custom scenario has 3000 plays.

Facts:
Ancient World has more plays than the 20 most played custom scenarios combined.
World Map has more plays than all the custom scenarios combined and multiplied by a thousand.
World Map has more plays than all custom maps combined.

I really dont understand where you are confused. I've said that Ancient world is not a scenario, and has more than 19,000 plays, whereas role-play has almost 8,000 plays. Role-Play isn't a scenario, either.

Thus, it's not right to think that the community is mostly just Role-players who tried to deaden the community. People, before the SP reduction, made a lot of excuses on how RP is bad, not excluding the fact that they believe RP is played more often by the community than other maps. Ancient world, and I'm sure likewise with other maps, proves this false. I want to make sure that this idea is cleared up.

Understand the reason for this post?


As i said early, RP wasn't publish until around June of 2013, while ancient world was released within a month of bring created. RP had like 1500 plays on December of 2013, the fact that RP plays increased 500% in plays within 6 months is scary, at this rate RP will outplay ancient world by summer of 2015.

The ancient map bacame boring . all you do is IF fag strategy and you usually win
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22.10.2014 - 19:46
Well this is a fun flame war to read here's my opinion. Why the fuck do we care so much? It's just a game I do like new update, and if ppl play rp because it's fun, have at it!
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23.10.2014 - 08:03
I haven't seen a single RP up in all fucking morning... that must mean something right?? Still awaiting to see how it goes during afternoon lol at this rate, I'll start missing seeing all those RPs in lobby full of 20 players!
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23.10.2014 - 10:10
Általa írva RaulPB, 23.10.2014 at 08:03

I haven't seen a single RP up in all fucking morning... that must mean something right?? Still awaiting to see how it goes during afternoon lol at this rate, I'll start missing seeing all those RPs in lobby full of 20 players!


sP reduction is working
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23.10.2014 - 12:45
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Általa írva Tundy, 23.10.2014 at 10:10

Általa írva RaulPB, 23.10.2014 at 08:03

I haven't seen a single RP up in all fucking morning... that must mean something right?? Still awaiting to see how it goes during afternoon lol at this rate, I'll start missing seeing all those RPs in lobby full of 20 players!


sP reduction is working
I wonder if RP would be common in December.
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23.10.2014 - 12:55
Általa írva Guest, 23.10.2014 at 12:45

Általa írva Tundy, 23.10.2014 at 10:10

Általa írva RaulPB, 23.10.2014 at 08:03

I haven't seen a single RP up in all fucking morning... that must mean something right?? Still awaiting to see how it goes during afternoon lol at this rate, I'll start missing seeing all those RPs in lobby full of 20 players!


sP reduction is working
I wonder if RP would be common in December.


The median of hours played in a RP is around 6 hours per game.
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23.10.2014 - 14:36
We don't want to restrict or ban RP. We also don't want to make playing RP an obligation if you want to move up the ranks, we want to diversify the options available for SP gains.
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Általa írva Mahdi, 23.11.2013 at 20:30

I don't consider the phrase "massive fag" to be an insult. Mods did.
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24.10.2014 - 07:11
Általa írva notserral, 23.10.2014 at 14:36

We don't want to restrict or ban RP. We also don't want to make playing RP an obligation if you want to move up the ranks, we want to diversify the options available for SP gains.

I never thought if that... i just wanted to point out how people stop playing it now that they see they dont get as much sp as before, which is a bit stupid in my opinion in case they really do like playing RP just for the fun... Anyway, let's just wait to see if people get over it and start playing it again
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24.10.2014 - 07:42
Általa írva notserral, 23.10.2014 at 14:36

We don't want to restrict or ban RP. We also don't want to make playing RP an obligation if you want to move up the ranks, we want to diversify the options available for SP gains.

This is exactly what I thought, and wanted from the sp reduction system
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