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Küldte Brsjak, 02.10.2017 - 11:13
Http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooter/index.html
Shotting in las vegas RIP
04.10.2017 - 21:16
Oy vey the goyim are getting restless
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04.10.2017 - 21:38
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For once I at least half agree with Yellow Rose, the good guy with a gun meme is laughable. That said, there's no reason to resort to so silly an argument in defense of guns. Lots of Americans myself included are simply willing to give up some safety for personal freedom. Maybe your country isn't. Go figure.

I only wish Republicans would be as defensive and steadfast about our civil liberties when it comes to Islamic terrorism as they are about guns when it comes to mass shootings. Instead we have a growing surveillance state and unaccountable government agencies operating under the pretext of making us safer. But let's ignore that bipartisan erosion of our freedoms and continue arguing about statistically insignificant mass shootings.
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04.10.2017 - 22:20
Általa írva Khal.eesi, 04.10.2017 at 12:26

Általa írva Crow, 02.10.2017 at 15:08

If the shooter was a black guy or muslim the Alt Right would be 'chimping' out everywhere with their stupid racism, but since it was done by a white guy they're trying to come up with conspiracy theories and blaming Jews.


ISIS took responsibility for the attack in case you didnt know. The motive is still unknown and there are a lot of holes in the official story.

Btw your tolerant friends, you know liberals and minorities did show their moral superiority by spamming twitter and fb with compassionate remarks about how the victims deserved it, because they were rednecks, whites and trump voters (because they listened to country music)

Not racist at all

Remind me why we are not friends
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04.10.2017 - 23:14
Általa írva Acquiesce, 04.10.2017 at 21:38

For once I at least half agree with Yellow Rose, the good guy with a gun meme is laughable. That said, there's no reason to resort to so silly an argument in defense of guns. Lots of Americans myself included are simply willing to give up some safety for personal freedom. Maybe your country isn't. Go figure.

I only wish Republicans would be as defensive and steadfast about our civil liberties when it comes to Islamic terrorism as they are about guns when it comes to mass shootings. Instead we have a growing surveillance state and unaccountable government agencies operating under the pretext of making us safer. But let's ignore that bipartisan erosion of our freedoms and continue arguing about statistically insignificant mass shootings.

Well said! Couldn't have put it better myself. The good guy with a gun meme is laughable.

You know how many Americans (and developed country people in general) die in terrorist attacks and mass shootings? A statistically insignificant amount, that's how many.

Funding emergency services and public healthcare, tightening safety and consumer protection regulations, or even just following a less jingoistic foreign policy would save far more American lives than going after people's civil liberties so that the government can "protect" them from terrorism, and as Acquiesce so correctly pointed out this goes for both mass surveillance and armament rights. The correct response to people who seek to take away your liberty and security is to not hand over your liberty and security on a platter to someone else.

I happen to believe in somewhat stricter gun control than the US has at the moment, but "so that mass shootings don't happen" isn't my reason why.
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04.10.2017 - 23:48
Általa írva Acquiesce, 04.10.2017 at 21:38

For once I at least half agree with Yellow Rose, the good guy with a gun meme is laughable. That said, there's no reason to resort to so silly an argument in defense of guns. Lots of Americans myself included are simply willing to give up some safety for personal freedom. Maybe your country isn't. Go figure.

I only wish Republicans would be as defensive and steadfast about our civil liberties when it comes to Islamic terrorism as they are about guns when it comes to mass shootings. Instead we have a growing surveillance state and unaccountable government agencies operating under the pretext of making us safer. But let's ignore that bipartisan erosion of our freedoms and continue arguing about statistically insignificant mass shootings.


thought you were greek for the longest time....
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05.10.2017 - 00:50
You all are forgetting the real reason the gun rights are in the constitution
we have guns to keep the government in check so they dont get to push us around and you and me both know we got pushed around a lot lately
if some shootings happen once in a while so be it
greater good>few people dead
im sure in days prior alot of "good americans" thought this guy was suspicious hauling crates of guns and ammo into his hotel room and said nothing, those people should be charged with murder.
im not sure you remember this case
a few years ago a girl got raped and killed in NY with more than 70 eye witnesses that did nothing or called no one while it happened selfish pigs.
btw that happened with no guns
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05.10.2017 - 01:30
Általa írva 1GodofWar1, 05.10.2017 at 00:50

You all are forgetting the real reason the gun rights are in the constitution
we have guns to keep the government in check so they dont get to push us around and you and me both know we got pushed around a lot lately

LOL you have to be joking when you say this. how the fuck does us having guns keep the government in check. wake up dude, this isn't the 1700s.

Általa írva 1GodofWar1, 05.10.2017 at 00:50

greater good>few people dead

just no dude.... this is a outright disgusting idea



Általa írva 1GodofWar1, 05.10.2017 at 00:50

im sure in days prior alot of "good americans" thought this guy was suspicious hauling crates of guns and ammo into his hotel room and said nothing, those people should be charged with murder.

wut...

Általa írva 1GodofWar1, 05.10.2017 at 00:50

im not sure you remember this case
a few years ago a girl got raped and killed in NY with more than 70 eye witnesses that did nothing or called no one while it happened selfish pigs.
btw that happened with no guns

omg. yeah a few years ago... you mean in 1964?? jesus christ dude, you didn't even get the details right. it was claimed that there were 38 witnesses. besides, this story is almost like a myth because there were a lot of inaccuracies of the original reports. and most importantly, how the FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH GUNS.

after writing all of this i hope your post was a joke and u baited me. because i wouldn't know if i should laugh or be flabbergasted at what u just wrote lmao
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05.10.2017 - 03:04
#prayforvegas
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05.10.2017 - 03:40
Általa írva 1GodofWar1, 05.10.2017 at 00:50

if some shootings happen once in a while so be it
greater good>few people dead

This is solely the reason America has its gun shooting problems, not to mention the amount of ignorant people. But saying this... mfw..

And to wonder that people with a mindset like this can get into politics or any other highly valued job with influence in America or become a president or w/e. Its just sickening, lol.
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Általa írva Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

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05.10.2017 - 03:49
I think that the american senat and the american people need to consider an immediate and an absolute ban of hotels.
How many times must this happen until the danger of this structures is realised i ask you?
Any psycho can rent a room in a hotel, with no background check whatsoever!!!

If not a total ban, which is a bit stretched i admit, then at least a high restriction for architects
(who are the main responsible and to blame) on making windows in hotel rooms.
Why would anyone i ask you need a window in their hotel room???
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05.10.2017 - 03:49
Általa írva 1GodofWar1, 04.10.2017 at 22:20

Remind me why we are not friends
We agree on practically every subject that was ever discussed here on aw



Because of a silly misunderstanding in a duel years ago, i had my share of fault in this one..But we are way beyond that now
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05.10.2017 - 04:16
Általa írva Waffel, 05.10.2017 at 03:40

This is solely the reason America has its gun shooting problems, not to mention the amount of ignorant people. But saying this... mfw..

And to wonder that people with a mindset like this can get into politics or any other highly valued job with influence in America or become a president or w/e. Its just sickening, lol.


Funny, you reached your conclusion again and proceeded to personal attacks without even offering an argument. You must have forgot.

Anyway if you think gun control is America's biggest problem right now, it just shows how simplistic and pedantic your view of the world really is.

Whats more interesting is how deluded you are, thinking you have it better in the Netherlands because the crime is yet low, yet you have effectively surrendered your national sovereignty and identity. Muslim immigrants are ruining your neighborhoods and their crimes are not reported. Your freedoms are crushed and your liberties taken away.

The last director who made a documentary about Islam got murdered. The last politician who spoke out against Islam was assassinated. The last teacher who tweeted about his muslim students got arrested. People posting on social media about Islam are having visits from the police aswell. So much freedom wow

Some interesting facts.

-Muslims make up 4% of the population but 40% of prison.
-80% of African immigrants are on wellfare.
-Jewish scools need to be guarded and while its perfectly fine for women to walk around in hijabs, jews are constantly harassed in the streets.
-In most major cities there are no go zones, where white christians, jews, women and gays cannot go without getting harassed.
-The new born muslims are more radicalised than their parents, most of them support Sharia law studies show.

*Teachers at schools are trying to speak out about how the muslim students are out of control, bullying Dutch kids and celebrating after every Europe terrorist attack but they are being denied freedom of speech.

*Volunteers who work at refugee camps are trying to speak out about the crimes that are commited daily by angry male refugees who dont get the things they are promised, free house, free car and a job, but guess what they are censored as well.

You lost your country, admit it. You dont even have the basic freedoms of speech and expression. You cant possibly dare talk about America and its "problems". I mean, please..
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05.10.2017 - 04:55
Általa írva Khal.eesi, 05.10.2017 at 04:16

Általa írva Waffel, 05.10.2017 at 03:40

This is solely the reason America has its gun shooting problems, not to mention the amount of ignorant people. But saying this... mfw..

And to wonder that people with a mindset like this can get into politics or any other highly valued job with influence in America or become a president or w/e. Its just sickening, lol.


Funny, you reached your conclusion again and proceeded to personal attacks without even offering an argument. You must have forgot.

Anyway if you think gun control is America's biggest problem right now, it just shows how simplistic and pedantic your view of the world really is.

Whats more interesting is how deluded you are, thinking you have it better in the Netherlands because the crime is yet low, yet you have effectively surrendered your national sovereignty and identity. Muslim immigrants are ruining your neighborhoods and their crimes are not reported. Your freedoms are crushed and your liberties taken away.

You lost your country, admit it. You dont even have the basic freedoms of speech and expression. You cant possibly dare talk about America and its "problems". I mean, please..

You saying that I have a simplistic and pedantic view of the world, while all you can do is put up words in my mouth and trying to sounds oh so smart and superior while argueing with 'me' while you go comment against the words you put in my mouth in the first place. I never said America's gun control is the biggest problem right now, in fact I couldnt care less about America. Its the fact that most of europe think of america as a super nation and such an example fo the world and bladiebladiebla, that in fact america is just a corrupted group of elites that try to ruin every culture/religion/country/group of people who do not obey them and bend their knees like they are ussed to from msot countries.

I think you are one of the least people on this game that can have a say about a view of the world, when all of your views and opinions are about something out of hate for a specific group of people, or people from a specific sort of country. You dwell so much in the past that you can't even be objective about anything related to the recent events without bringing up these subjects everytime.

Also its funny that could describe so dramatically whats happening in my own country, when in fact you guys cant even control your own country lol... shouldn't you be working instead of posting shit in an online game that you know how the world works, lol. You notice how your arguements work? Same could be said about greece, but ofcourse you dont think greece is fucked bcs its not 'filled' with muslims and immigrants.

Khal I dont know if you have some personalitiy problem or trying to feel good about yourself, but I remember that you did not want to debate nor talk with me about these subjects, yet its you that keeps on quoting me on these kind of subjects, I barely comment on these kind of subjects because its always the same people with the same kind of views, that I do not even need to comment to know what comes out of their mouth, same goes for you, hence the reason, like I appointed above, I do not talk with you about these subjects, so i'd say stick to your words and leave me out of your egostroking superiorityproblem. Same goes for clanchat btw. Wouldn't be surprised if you'd tell acq and lao that you want me out of the clan, bcs im not agreeing with your points and that I am a morron that does not fit between u guys
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Általa írva Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

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05.10.2017 - 05:02
Általa írva Khal.eesi, 05.10.2017 at 04:16

Általa írva Waffel, 05.10.2017 at 03:40

This is solely the reason America has its gun shooting problems, not to mention the amount of ignorant people. But saying this... mfw..

And to wonder that people with a mindset like this can get into politics or any other highly valued job with influence in America or become a president or w/e. Its just sickening, lol.

it just shows how simplistic and pedantic your view of the world really is.

Also to come back about my 'simplistic and pedantic view' lmao, you are a person that suddenly hate or dislike people because of their different political opinions, or their opinions in general. You know me for years, we've always get along verry well, so did you with others, and now all of sudden we are not the same bandwaggon, we are or, cummie muslimhuggercucks or retardeds without a bright sight of views, we are brainwashed media sandniggercocksuckers and w/e retarded combinations you can make.

The comments between you and GOW as a perfect example, since he agrees with your horrible views you guys are suddenly beyond that lmao. Could you be more of a cliché

You talking about personal attacks when its you 9 out of 10 times insulting someone when he disagrees with you on a point, and trying ti put some fancy words in one or two posts doesn't make you superior nor smart, so how about pull your ass out of your head and really start taking a look at the shit you post before you post them, would save AW a huge amount of shitposting.
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Általa írva Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

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05.10.2017 - 08:49
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Általa írva boywind2, 04.10.2017 at 23:48

thought you were greek for the longest time....


οχι ειμαι Αμερικανος. μενω στην Ελλαδα για λιγα χρονια?

You can call me a philhellene
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05.10.2017 - 10:07
Általa írva Acquiesce, 05.10.2017 at 08:49

Általa írva boywind2, 04.10.2017 at 23:48

thought you were greek for the longest time....


οχι ειμαι Αμερικανος. μενω στην Ελλαδα για λιγα χρονια?

You can call me a philhellene

Βορινγ , Βορινγ Φιλχελενος , σιμφονο D
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05.10.2017 - 10:56
This is why I love (and loathe) atWar. No matter how sensitive the topic is, or how irrelevant it is, you always find a way to spark a toxic argument. And I always come prepared:

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05.10.2017 - 11:32
Általa írva Acquiesce, 04.10.2017 at 21:38

Lots of Americans myself included are simply willing to give up some safety for personal freedom. Maybe your country isn't. Go figure.

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05.10.2017 - 13:11
Általa írva Viruslegion, 05.10.2017 at 11:32

Általa írva Acquiesce, 04.10.2017 at 21:38

Lots of Americans myself included are simply willing to give up some safety for personal freedom. Maybe your country isn't. Go figure.




that's because he had a utopian vision.
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05.10.2017 - 14:30
Általa írva Waffel, 05.10.2017 at 05:02

Also to come back about my 'simplistic and pedantic view' lmao, you are a person that suddenly hate or dislike people because of their different political opinions, or their opinions in general. You know me for years, we've always get along verry well, so did you with others, and now all of sudden we are not the same bandwaggon, we are or, cummie muslimhuggercucks or retardeds without a bright sight of views, we are brainwashed media sandniggercocksuckers and w/e retarded combinations you can make.

The comments between you and GOW as a perfect example, since he agrees with your horrible views you guys are suddenly beyond that lmao. Could you be more of a cliché

You talking about personal attacks when its you 9 out of 10 times insulting someone when he disagrees with you on a point, and trying ti put some fancy words in one or two posts doesn't make you superior nor smart, so how about pull your ass out of your head and really start taking a look at the shit you post before you post them, would save AW a huge amount of shitposting.


Do you find debating with Khal so useless you should'nt even bother provide counter arguements? I am highly curious now because you are very stubborn about those subjects but i never actually had you explaining your position. please find some time for it because it should'nt end in mocking ping pong.
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05.10.2017 - 15:25
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Általa írva 1GodofWar1, 05.10.2017 at 00:50

You all are forgetting the real reason the gun rights are in the constitution
we have guns to keep the government in check so they dont get to push us around and you and me both know we got pushed around a lot lately
if some shootings happen once in a while so be it
greater good>few people dead
im sure in days prior alot of "good americans" thought this guy was suspicious hauling crates of guns and ammo into his hotel room and said nothing, those people should be charged with murder.
im not sure you remember this case
a few years ago a girl got raped and killed in NY with more than 70 eye witnesses that did nothing or called no one while it happened selfish pigs.
btw that happened with no guns

Lol are you serious? The reason why you have guns in the constitution is to protect yourselves, not keep the government 'in check'. When they were writing the constitution they didn't have automatic weapons back then. Why the hell would you need an AK-47 to defend your house? What's wrong with a simple hand gun?

And if you seriously think that if everyone in America carried a gun with them every day that crime will decrease, you're delusional and just straight up stupid.
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05.10.2017 - 16:54
Általa írva Waffel, 05.10.2017 at 04:55

-zzzznip!-





Seriously snap out of it, its just an internet argument in a forum where we occasionally discuss war, history and politics, nothing more to it. Dont be so sensitive..
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05.10.2017 - 22:21
Általa írva boywind2, 05.10.2017 at 13:11

that's because he had a utopian vision.

doesn't make it any less true
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06.10.2017 - 02:35
Általa írva Crow, 05.10.2017 at 15:25

Általa írva 1GodofWar1, 05.10.2017 at 00:50

You all are forgetting the real reason the gun rights are in the constitution
we have guns to keep the government in check so they dont get to push us around and you and me both know we got pushed around a lot lately
if some shootings happen once in a while so be it
greater good>few people dead
im sure in days prior alot of "good americans" thought this guy was suspicious hauling crates of guns and ammo into his hotel room and said nothing, those people should be charged with murder.
im not sure you remember this case
a few years ago a girl got raped and killed in NY with more than 70 eye witnesses that did nothing or called no one while it happened selfish pigs.
btw that happened with no guns

Lol are you serious? The reason why you have guns in the constitution is to protect yourselves, not keep the government 'in check'. When they were writing the constitution they didn't have automatic weapons back then. Why the hell would you need an AK-47 to defend your house? What's wrong with a simple hand gun?

And if you seriously think that if everyone in America carried a gun with them every day that crime will decrease, you're delusional and just straight up stupid.

Your wrong crow, Second Amendment, A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

"Being Necessary to the security of a free state",our republic is 50 respresentitive states each has a right to bare arms against an infringing national government. The second amendment was writen to ensure each state is free to make its own decisions without the fear of tyranny from a central power. Seeing as our central government had a certain standard of military power each state should hold equal power to that central entity to ensure it is not oppressed by said power. This changed with the birth of the one of the original parties in the United states, the federalists, they sought to empower the central government as an entity to protect the nation from colonialist europeans who still vied for America's wealth. In turn they kept giving the president more and more power untill the civil war happened, after the civil war the states no longer told the central government how much taxes they would pay or what laws to write instead, they made the 3 branches of the federal government for that. legislative for making laws, executive for passing laws, and judicial for interpreting laws. The legislative branch is the states, The executive branch is the president, and the judicial branch are judges for interpreting who is right in law disputes, but after the civil war the president now appoints judges, and can veto laws, so the central government hijacked the direction of the country from its states. Then came world war one where the central government got even stronger, then world war two where they took absolute power. The original idea of the Republic only survives through our ability to bare arms, if we ever surrender our weapons nothing would stop the central government from assuming even more power.

People don't seem to understand the United states has militias filled with former military personnel, There is 160,000 Militia in My state michigan alone there are three time that many in Texas. The government fears it's people, that's why they still tip toe around us and use false flag operations to cease more power. They fear a rebellion so they only take power a little at a time. Because if a million militia rose up to stop them and then the military went awol (as they are american people not drones) then they are fucked and there 100 year plan to turn the United states into a corporate dictatorship failed. Put a frog in a pot and set it to boil,the frog will adapt it's body temperature as the heat rises, until the water is to hot and the frog is to weak to jump out. That is the plan of the corrupt in the central government. The only thing stopping it is the millions of gun owning americans who never got in there fucking pot.
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06.10.2017 - 03:43
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Általa írva Helly, 06.10.2017 at 02:35

Általa írva Crow, 05.10.2017 at 15:25

Általa írva 1GodofWar1, 05.10.2017 at 00:50

You all are forgetting the real reason the gun rights are in the constitution
we have guns to keep the government in check so they dont get to push us around and you and me both know we got pushed around a lot lately
if some shootings happen once in a while so be it
greater good>few people dead
im sure in days prior alot of "good americans" thought this guy was suspicious hauling crates of guns and ammo into his hotel room and said nothing, those people should be charged with murder.
im not sure you remember this case
a few years ago a girl got raped and killed in NY with more than 70 eye witnesses that did nothing or called no one while it happened selfish pigs.
btw that happened with no guns

Lol are you serious? The reason why you have guns in the constitution is to protect yourselves, not keep the government 'in check'. When they were writing the constitution they didn't have automatic weapons back then. Why the hell would you need an AK-47 to defend your house? What's wrong with a simple hand gun?

And if you seriously think that if everyone in America carried a gun with them every day that crime will decrease, you're delusional and just straight up stupid.

Your wrong crow, Second Amendment, A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

"Being Necessary to the security of a free state",our republic is 50 respresentitive states each has a right to bare arms against an infringing national government. The second amendment was writen to ensure each state is free to make its own decisions without the fear of tyranny from a central power. Seeing as our central government had a certain standard of military power each state should hold equal power to that central entity to ensure it is not oppressed by said power. This changed with the birth of the one of the original parties in the United states, the federalists, they sought to empower the central government as an entity to protect the nation from colonialist europeans who still vied for America's wealth. In turn they kept giving the president more and more power untill the civil war happened, after the civil war the states no longer told the central government how much taxes they would pay or what laws to write instead, they made the 3 branches of the federal government for that. legislative for making laws, executive for passing laws, and judicial for interpreting laws. The legislative branch is the states, The executive branch is the president, and the judicial branch are judges for interpreting who is right in law disputes, but after the civil war the president now appoints judges, and can veto laws, so the central government hijacked the direction of the country from its states. Then came world war one where the central government got even stronger, then world war two where they took absolute power. The original idea of the Republic only survives through our ability to bare arms, if we ever surrender our weapons nothing would stop the central government from assuming even more power.

People don't seem to understand the United states has militias filled with former military personnel, There is 160,000 Militia in My state michigan alone there are three time that many in Texas. The government fears it's people, that's why they still tip toe around us and use false flag operations to cease more power. They fear a rebellion so they only take power a little at a time. Because if a million militia rose up to stop them and then the military went awol (as they are american people not drones) then they are fucked and there 100 year plan to turn the United states into a corporate dictatorship failed. Put a frog in a pot and set it to boil,the frog will adapt it's body temperature as the heat rises, until the water is to hot and the frog is to weak to jump out. That is the plan of the corrupt in the central government. The only thing stopping it is the millions of gun owning americans who never got in there fucking pot.

This is the 21st century, you guys will be overpowered by the government so it doesn't matter. It made sense back then as the US military wasn't that advanced, but the fact you're saying the government is afraid of citizens because they own a gun is ridiculous. As Yellow Rose previously stated, 40% of gun owners don't even have proper training. What makes you think the US government fears you guys?
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06.10.2017 - 04:22
Általa írva Crow, 06.10.2017 at 03:43

Általa írva Helly, 06.10.2017 at 02:35

Általa írva Crow, 05.10.2017 at 15:25

Általa írva 1GodofWar1, 05.10.2017 at 00:50

You all are forgetting the real reason the gun rights are in the constitution
we have guns to keep the government in check so they dont get to push us around and you and me both know we got pushed around a lot lately
if some shootings happen once in a while so be it
greater good>few people dead
im sure in days prior alot of "good americans" thought this guy was suspicious hauling crates of guns and ammo into his hotel room and said nothing, those people should be charged with murder.
im not sure you remember this case
a few years ago a girl got raped and killed in NY with more than 70 eye witnesses that did nothing or called no one while it happened selfish pigs.
btw that happened with no guns

Lol are you serious? The reason why you have guns in the constitution is to protect yourselves, not keep the government 'in check'. When they were writing the constitution they didn't have automatic weapons back then. Why the hell would you need an AK-47 to defend your house? What's wrong with a simple hand gun?

And if you seriously think that if everyone in America carried a gun with them every day that crime will decrease, you're delusional and just straight up stupid.

Your wrong crow, Second Amendment, A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

"Being Necessary to the security of a free state",our republic is 50 respresentitive states each has a right to bare arms against an infringing national government. The second amendment was writen to ensure each state is free to make its own decisions without the fear of tyranny from a central power. Seeing as our central government had a certain standard of military power each state should hold equal power to that central entity to ensure it is not oppressed by said power. This changed with the birth of the one of the original parties in the United states, the federalists, they sought to empower the central government as an entity to protect the nation from colonialist europeans who still vied for America's wealth. In turn they kept giving the president more and more power untill the civil war happened, after the civil war the states no longer told the central government how much taxes they would pay or what laws to write instead, they made the 3 branches of the federal government for that. legislative for making laws, executive for passing laws, and judicial for interpreting laws. The legislative branch is the states, The executive branch is the president, and the judicial branch are judges for interpreting who is right in law disputes, but after the civil war the president now appoints judges, and can veto laws, so the central government hijacked the direction of the country from its states. Then came world war one where the central government got even stronger, then world war two where they took absolute power. The original idea of the Republic only survives through our ability to bare arms, if we ever surrender our weapons nothing would stop the central government from assuming even more power.

People don't seem to understand the United states has militias filled with former military personnel, There is 160,000 Militia in My state michigan alone there are three time that many in Texas. The government fears it's people, that's why they still tip toe around us and use false flag operations to cease more power. They fear a rebellion so they only take power a little at a time. Because if a million militia rose up to stop them and then the military went awol (as they are american people not drones) then they are fucked and there 100 year plan to turn the United states into a corporate dictatorship failed. Put a frog in a pot and set it to boil,the frog will adapt it's body temperature as the heat rises, until the water is to hot and the frog is to weak to jump out. That is the plan of the corrupt in the central government. The only thing stopping it is the millions of gun owning americans who never got in there fucking pot.

This is the 21st century, you guys will be overpowered by the government so it doesn't matter. It made sense back then as the US military wasn't that advanced, but the fact you're saying the government is afraid of citizens because they own a gun is ridiculous. As Yellow Rose previously stated, 40% of gun owners don't even have proper training. What makes you think the US government fears you guys?

Why do you think the military would side with the government? Obama made sure the military hates the government. I 100% Gurrentee you the military will be ineffective in a rebellion, far to many generals admirals engineers and soldiers would opt to join the people over the corrupt swamp that has become the US government. Aswell yellow rose said it is 40% that would be false but I won't argue with that guy. 40% of all gun owners are ex military alone, seals, rangers, marines, special forces all of them, then you have ex cops, current cops, gun enthusiasts and show men. Infact in order to carry a hand gun here in Michigan (and in other states) you have to take three 8 hour classes in order to Carry a hand gun including firing range cleaning and saftey. It's the 21st century, an age of when humanity mastered minipulation and caused entire societies to feel inferior to others because they are politicians. Get your head out your ass they are normal people who got corrupted by money and power and sometimes when it gets to aweful they need to be removed. In Michigan I'm volunteering to help the Lt Governor pass a part time legislation bill which will make it against the law to make politics a full time career in Michigan. One way or another these corrupt assholes are gonna go.

All that we need to do is catch them one time in a false flag operation to circumvent our liberties on the bases of fear and I guarantee you that they will be fucked. Our military is the people, not the government, the government only has power if people comply and we are just about done with there shit.
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06.10.2017 - 05:12
Általa írva Helly, 06.10.2017 at 04:22

Általa írva Crow, 06.10.2017 at 03:43

Általa írva Helly, 06.10.2017 at 02:35

Általa írva Crow, 05.10.2017 at 15:25

Általa írva 1GodofWar1, 05.10.2017 at 00:50

You all are forgetting the real reason the gun rights are in the constitution
we have guns to keep the government in check so they dont get to push us around and you and me both know we got pushed around a lot lately
if some shootings happen once in a while so be it
greater good>few people dead
im sure in days prior alot of "good americans" thought this guy was suspicious hauling crates of guns and ammo into his hotel room and said nothing, those people should be charged with murder.
im not sure you remember this case
a few years ago a girl got raped and killed in NY with more than 70 eye witnesses that did nothing or called no one while it happened selfish pigs.
btw that happened with no guns

Lol are you serious? The reason why you have guns in the constitution is to protect yourselves, not keep the government 'in check'. When they were writing the constitution they didn't have automatic weapons back then. Why the hell would you need an AK-47 to defend your house? What's wrong with a simple hand gun?

And if you seriously think that if everyone in America carried a gun with them every day that crime will decrease, you're delusional and just straight up stupid.

Your wrong crow, Second Amendment, A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

"Being Necessary to the security of a free state",our republic is 50 respresentitive states each has a right to bare arms against an infringing national government. The second amendment was writen to ensure each state is free to make its own decisions without the fear of tyranny from a central power. Seeing as our central government had a certain standard of military power each state should hold equal power to that central entity to ensure it is not oppressed by said power. This changed with the birth of the one of the original parties in the United states, the federalists, they sought to empower the central government as an entity to protect the nation from colonialist europeans who still vied for America's wealth. In turn they kept giving the president more and more power untill the civil war happened, after the civil war the states no longer told the central government how much taxes they would pay or what laws to write instead, they made the 3 branches of the federal government for that. legislative for making laws, executive for passing laws, and judicial for interpreting laws. The legislative branch is the states, The executive branch is the president, and the judicial branch are judges for interpreting who is right in law disputes, but after the civil war the president now appoints judges, and can veto laws, so the central government hijacked the direction of the country from its states. Then came world war one where the central government got even stronger, then world war two where they took absolute power. The original idea of the Republic only survives through our ability to bare arms, if we ever surrender our weapons nothing would stop the central government from assuming even more power.

People don't seem to understand the United states has militias filled with former military personnel, There is 160,000 Militia in My state michigan alone there are three time that many in Texas. The government fears it's people, that's why they still tip toe around us and use false flag operations to cease more power. They fear a rebellion so they only take power a little at a time. Because if a million militia rose up to stop them and then the military went awol (as they are american people not drones) then they are fucked and there 100 year plan to turn the United states into a corporate dictatorship failed. Put a frog in a pot and set it to boil,the frog will adapt it's body temperature as the heat rises, until the water is to hot and the frog is to weak to jump out. That is the plan of the corrupt in the central government. The only thing stopping it is the millions of gun owning americans who never got in there fucking pot.

This is the 21st century, you guys will be overpowered by the government so it doesn't matter. It made sense back then as the US military wasn't that advanced, but the fact you're saying the government is afraid of citizens because they own a gun is ridiculous. As Yellow Rose previously stated, 40% of gun owners don't even have proper training. What makes you think the US government fears you guys?

Why do you think the military would side with the government? Obama made sure the military hates the government. I 100% Gurrentee you the military will be ineffective in a rebellion, far to many generals admirals engineers and soldiers would opt to join the people over the corrupt swamp that has become the US government. Aswell yellow rose said it is 40% that would be false but I won't argue with that guy. 40% of all gun owners are ex military alone, seals, rangers, marines, special forces all of them, then you have ex cops, current cops, gun enthusiasts and show men. Infact in order to carry a hand gun here in Michigan (and in other states) you have to take three 8 hour classes in order to Carry a hand gun including firing range cleaning and saftey. It's the 21st century, an age of when humanity mastered minipulation and caused entire societies to feel inferior to others because they are politicians. Get your head out your ass they are normal people who got corrupted by money and power and sometimes when it gets to aweful they need to be removed. In Michigan I'm volunteering to help the Lt Governor pass a part time legislation bill which will make it against the law to make politics a full time career in Michigan. One way or another these corrupt assholes are gonna go.

All that we need to do is catch them one time in a false flag operation to circumvent our liberties on the bases of fear and I guarantee you that they will be fucked. Our military is the people, not the government, the government only has power if people comply and we are just about done with there shit.

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Általa írva Viruslegion, 05.10.2017 at 11:32

Általa írva Acquiesce, 04.10.2017 at 21:38

Lots of Americans myself included are simply willing to give up some safety for personal freedom. Maybe your country isn't. Go figure.



#liberty or death
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07.10.2017 - 00:20
Általa írva Viruslegion, 05.10.2017 at 22:21

Általa írva boywind2, 05.10.2017 at 13:11

that's because he had a utopian vision.

doesn't make it any less true


no but it undermines the fact that u cant have it both ways
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07.10.2017 - 01:36
Általa írva boywind2, 07.10.2017 at 00:20

Általa írva Viruslegion, 05.10.2017 at 22:21

Általa írva boywind2, 05.10.2017 at 13:11

that's because he had a utopian vision.

doesn't make it any less true


no but it undermines the fact that u cant have it both ways

Yes you can, you just have to remove morality and replace it with justice, if in modern society murder wasn't frowned apon when it dealt with scum, undesirable,and corrupt, then liberty would be achievable for those who deserve it. Not all humans are created equally, every race has a genome with good and bad characteristics and the sooner we start getting rid of our bad genes the better. We don't even have to kill anyone, we just need to start sterilizing those who would ruin society for personal gain. Rob a store? Sterilize, Rape? Sterilize, Murder for personal gain? Sterilize and eventually we will start to change the mapping of our genetic make up as we start removing genes that lead to these corruptions.
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