Blitz nerf was to strong? will we ever be able to play it again?

Blitz is mostly fine, it works as intended.

Általa írva Kraigg, 16.05.2016 at 03:41

Remove -1 in cities = Blitz OP and 1 week later u have the opposite thread
If u play Blitz, walls are actually ur 2nd line of defense, ur first one being TBs (I know the community doesnt believe me but again and again I notice Blitz TBs much better, both when I play it and when I play against it)
Cheers

tbs are better with blitz because militia and inf have so much range, nothing else to it really. But yes tbing is even more important with blitz.

Általa írva clovis1122, 15.05.2016 at 19:47

What change do you guys propose for Blitzkrieg?

Just so we can move on with this discussion. It seems like the majority agrees that blitz need a change and I quite don't see the point arguing more about it.

Good thing changes aren't made by the majority then.

Lol no sense of defence. Blitz makes me go so fast, so i can take a lot stuff before elseone. Peace everyone @ take so much, AS YOU WANT @ be Hitler.
Best way to war as Blitzkrieg-man is counter-attacks. You just make %N% tanks and 3 or 6 soldiers. Declaring war, moving all this stuff to enemy's land, defend this stack with soldiers. Repeat it next turn, never use these soldiers again to wall stack (they can be attacked and it next turn your stack will be not triagled anymore!). If you act so, you need not defence anymore, just act counter-attacking from a walls! xD

When I see a R4 knows how to play Blitzkrieg better than "pr0s", I laugh so hard.

:/
How about to go duck yourself?
http://ru.atwar-game.com/users/?m_sortby=&m_what=jarlo&m_where=
Also where is +3 accs is not Jarlo, 2 of them is 5r

Általa írva Guest, 16.05.2016 at 04:33

:/
How about to go duck yourself?
http://ru.atwar-game.com/users/?m_sortby=&m_what=jarlo&m_where=
Also where is +3 accs is not Jarlo, 2 of them is 5r

I meant this as a good thing about you. Don't get it wrong.

How disgusting that you people are actually even considering a boost or nerf to no matter what strategy...

I mean the community is dying slowly, I am not sure if you people can actually see that? Yes ofcourse for the 1 person that leaves the game 2 or 3 join at the same time, but lately you guys want to limit everything so low ranks or ''alts'' cant ''farm'' or do this or that. So to come back at the 1 person that leaves 2 or 3 people join at the same time is surely true, but those 2 or 3 people that join probably dont last longer than 1 month and i think in severe cases only 1 person stays playing this game.

And you guys can blame html 5 for it, amok or ivan for it, but threads like this, and moderators like this that do not include the community, which are the people that are going to play everyday with strategy changes like this, keep changing the things, keep destroying things that did not need to be destroyed. It is a suicide watch and you people are clueless as fuck to even notice it. And ofcourse people will say now ;'' wtf are you talking we had 4 cws yesterday'' but 4 cws for the last couple of days is not even enough to compare with how it used to be when the community was more activer.

For fuck sake just make limits when a strategy is changed you need to atleast wait 6 months to change the next strategy, only in cases where a strategy is out of proportion and way to OP then you dont need to wait 6 months. This is getting ridiculous everytime when you lose vs a strategy make a strategy change thread.

Selfish people

Általa írva Acquiesce, 15.05.2016 at 20:36

Problem with every blitz discussion is that the people who want to make it stronger are literally the same people who suck at all the other strats and need blitz for wins

same with the people who want to nerf it all of them are PD fags

Általa írva Permamuted, 15.05.2016 at 21:19

I'm not completely against a blitz boost btw, but i dont want to see blitz go back to dominating every single setting on atwar. Worse the high ranks who grew in that era never learned any other strategies and developed little in the way of skill. Blitz is that strat we all buy as beginners because it is easy and requires less micro. I went for it over sm for that very reason. If it is really powerful and versatile why ever move away from that? We all saw the result, and many of the high ranks im talking about quit after the nerf because they couldnt play anything else.

I've seen them all and considered them all too, the fact of the matter is i can hop into some standard europe duels and dominate with blitz when the circumstances suit. Look at clovis dominating la and sa with blitz. Any setting where maneuverability is important. When i set out to make strat changes i wanted to find a competitive niche for every strat and bring the underused ones up to par. I pretty much did just that. Nobody can say that i didnt. If there is any situation where blitz is indeed a piece of crap and cant stand against another strat then you shouldnt be playing blitz. You've a dozen or so other strats to choose from for a reason, use them. Rather than coming to the forums every few months to make the same complaints.

I have to agree that bitz nerf actually forced us to focus on another strategies. I, who practically very rarely used PD, stareted using it mostly now.
Also, this kind of discussion and words I appreciate much more then your first post on this thread where I felt like a garbage after your words, same as everyone other who is standing same opinion as me about blitz nerf.

Blitz had to be nerfed, but I think -1 def in cities was too much. Let's find some middle where we all can agree

Already then i was playing first time with friends, a lot more discomfort gave me desync and dumb shit then i picked the strat in profile, but in a game it was like not picked. I needed to pick this damn again in game to make it work.
Also, i bet 99% novices don't gives a fuck how to buy an upgrades: In old version of atwar there was an big button on screen "upgrades", now it is hided from an eyes.

Általa írva Guest, 16.05.2016 at 04:29

Lol no sense of defence. Blitz makes me go so fast, so i can take a lot stuff before elseone. Peace everyone @ take so much, AS YOU WANT @ be Hitler.
Best way to war as Blitzkrieg-man is counter-attacks. You just make %N% tanks and 3 or 6 soldiers. Declaring war, moving all this stuff to enemy's land, defend this stack with soldiers. Repeat it next turn, never use these soldiers again to wall stack (they can be attacked and it next turn your stack will be not triagled anymore!). If you act so, you need not defence anymore, just act counter-attacking from a walls! xD

says rank 4 who probably is an alt

Laochra go away community has decided!

Sorry boys,laochra is right with this one.
FULL SUPPORT

Általa írva Xenosapien, 16.05.2016 at 04:24

Általa írva clovis1122, 15.05.2016 at 19:47

What change do you guys propose for Blitzkrieg?

Just so we can move on with this discussion. It seems like the majority agrees that blitz need a change and I quite don't see the point arguing more about it.

Good thing changes aren't made by the majority then.

yes they made by 4 people that are PD fags and when they lose from one strat they come cry in forums about being op then nerf it and call it "community decision".At least pathetic.How about we nerf every strat that requires tanks? You guys are at least rediculous.

Általa írva Guest, 16.05.2016 at 04:41

They probably nerfed it because blitz is the number 1 strat for rp games.

they nerfed it because they got their ass kicked just like RA.When me and cold case stared using RA spain against Ukraine and raped them 1million cry threads appeared in forums all of a sudden by 2 or 3 butthurt ppl crying about RA is op.In 3v3s almost everyone pick PD nowadays.Isnt it obvious that PD has become op compared to other strats?

RA and blitz are shit they need some buff.I dont get the fucking point in PD giving +1 def to inf yet RA doesnt give any extra att in tanks...Add again +1 att to tanks and keep it to 4def.That should make it balanced.Or at least remove +10 cost for mil and inf.They already have -1 def.Same for blitz its competely worthless.

Idézet:

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Általa írva JF., 15.05.2016 at 21:41

Általa írva Cold Case, 15.05.2016 at 18:45

Stfu.

You can't hide the truth and that hurts your right?

4real

You instead of acting like a man whom we should be afraid of behind a pc screen go meet gow and then we talk again.

Általa írva 1GodofWar1, 15.05.2016 at 23:39

case^

and point:i beat practically every *good* player here in cws or duels with other strats...
and so have the other known blitz players.
i beat you with RA twice in a row in 5k and then you made a cri thread about nerfing RA

Yeah I remember, it was just after RA got a strong buff. It was also the only two times you ever beat me in a duel. I wonder how many times I beat you before and after that? Hint: a lot more than twice (makes us ~17 - 2 actually). The truth is 75% of the players who relied on blitz weren't very versatile. While you played blitz and RA I was playing gw, pd, imp, sm, if, etc... sorry if the truth hurts your feelings.

Általa írva Guest, 16.05.2016 at 08:00

You sir just roasted this man beyond burning... There is no cream that can heal these scars

Kek he was the one who brought our duel record into it, I was happy being civil

There seems to be a funny trend where posts that are 3 pages deep tend to get ignored since most people will just skip right past this, but i'll go ahead and give a quick comment anyway.

My overall thoughts on blitz are this...

I have never once played blitz (and always find it interesting how people say "every new player plays blitz") so take my opinion for what is worth. But from what I can tell blitz is just fine. I have lost on all settings to blitz players, the range and TB potential is ridiculous, sexy expansion, and easy to play makes it a strong strategy from what I can tell.

Also like I said in the "DS is OP thread", just look at how much a strategy is used, I still see blitz used quite often so I don't think it needs any kind of buff, whereas I can go weeks without facing a single RA user. The strategies are incredible well balanced and like I have said elsewhere on forums it really is one of the best parts of the game how balanced the strategies are, the only one I would want touched right now is RA since it seems to me the most under used strategy.

Note:When I talk about use i'm not referring to what random payers pick, but to the strategy top end players use, be it EU,RP,Scenario whatever. I still see blitz used quite frequently as well as of course, PD,GW,MOS,LB,GC,NC,SM,even HW (go Sultan go) but RA is lagging behind in use and would like a militia buff, or some other kind of buff to make it a viable strategy.

All the damn noobs who cried over blitz is to OP is couse they suck balls and coudnt handel playing vs a good blitz player, go cry go whine, go rage go screem but you are noobs and all you do is fagg on SM PD GW

Your favorite strategy is PD

I think blitz is OK as it is. I suppose one could run some tournament with a group of the best players doing a round robin with a test of each strategy, but even then it's not clear what this would prove.

And sure, if you're going to modify some strategy, maybe RA since it is not a good strategy for the majority of maps. I remember tanks used to have +1 attack with RA, but that might be going too far the other way.

Általa írva Sixtyfour, 16.05.2016 at 09:16

And sure, if you're going to modify some strategy, maybe RA since it is not a good strategy for the majority of maps. I remember tanks used to have +1 attack with RA, but that might be going too far the other way.

RA before nerf had 9att and 5def.It was such a nice strat Now its completely fucked up.You get bankrupt turn3 thanks to +10 cost for mil and inf,you cant defend shit thanks to -1def BOTH for mil and inf,and all you get is a -30 cost for tanks.Yet i still rape ukraines with RA.As for blitz i think it should get a slight buff.For RA i would say remove +10cost and add +1 att to tanks.Also i dont know why we keep discussing this since the poll is obviously in favor of buffing blitz.So laochra gtfo.

Általa írva Nations, 16.05.2016 at 10:10

Also i dont know why we keep discussing this since the poll is obviously in favor of buffing blitz.So laochra gtfo.

Obviously? Right now there are 57 "no" and 33 "yes". As for RA I bet 95% of the people would want it buffed. That is what I would call "obvious".

Let's make RA viable first, for fuck sake. It is not playable, haven't been able to win a single game with it yet. Blitz still is still playable and I have won with it. Comparing both's circumstances, RA needs more urgent attention or else it will simply be forgotten.

My main point is that:

- Blitz's essence still remains as it is a low defense with high range strategy. Very viable for skirmishes, constant harassing, long range tbs and rushes, etc.

- RA's essence is fucked up. It's not ralentless anymore since those tanks are fairly weak. It has become Merciful Attack.

Pls, pay attention first to RA. Why only focus Blitz when RA is the one in actual danger of disappearance?

Általa írva RaulPB, 16.05.2016 at 10:40

Általa írva Nations, 16.05.2016 at 10:10

Also i dont know why we keep discussing this since the poll is obviously in favor of buffing blitz.So laochra gtfo.

Obviously? Right now there are 57 "no" and 33 "yes". As for RA I bet 95% of the people would want it buffed. That is what I would call "obvious".

Let's make RA viable first, for fuck sake. It is not playable, haven't been able to win a single game with it yet. Blitz still is still playable and I have won with it. Comparing both's circumstances, RA needs more urgent attention or else it will simply be forgotten.

My main point is that:

- Blitz's essence still remains as it is a low defense with high range strategy. Very viable for skirmishes, constant harassing, long range tbs and rushes, etc.

- RA's essence is fucked up, it's not ralentless anymore since those tanks are fairly weak. It has become Merciful Attack.

Pls, pay attention first to RA. Why only focus Blitz when RA is the one in actual danger of disappearance?

no means buff it,read the question better.

Általa írva RaulPB, 16.05.2016 at 10:40

Általa írva Nations, 16.05.2016 at 10:10

Also i dont know why we keep discussing this since the poll is obviously in favor of buffing blitz.So laochra gtfo.

Obviously? Right now there are 57 "no" and 33 "yes". As for RA I bet 95% of the people would want it buffed. That is what I would call "obvious".

Let's make RA viable first, for fuck sake. It is not playable, haven't been able to win a single game with it yet. Blitz still is still playable and I have won with it. Comparing both's circumstances, RA needs more urgent attention or else it will simply be forgotten.

My main point is that:

- Blitz's essence still remains as it is a low defense with high range strategy. Very viable for skirmishes, constant harassing, long range tbs and rushes, etc.

- RA's essence is fucked up. It's not ralentless anymore since those tanks are fairly weak. It has become Merciful Attack.

Pls, pay attention first to RA. Why only focus Blitz when RA is the one in actual danger of disappearance?

and yes RA is useless now.That +10 cost for mil and inf is rediculous.Remove it and add +1 att to tanks.

Általa írva RaulPB, 16.05.2016 at 10:44

Általa írva Nations, 16.05.2016 at 10:43

no means buff it,read the question better.

For real? Where I have said a "buff fr blitz"? Where????

Pls, focus on the important matter: RA needs more attention that Blitz does right now. Agree or not agree??

I personally think RA is in worst fate than blitz yes.Its useless.You pick RA and your tanks remain same just a bit cheaper.FAIL.