Patriotism is for bitches and sheep

Általa írva International, 14.07.2015 at 06:08

Does anyone have a transcript?

I'm afraid I never got around to replacing that broken headphone.

LOL

Általa írva Unleashed, 14.07.2015 at 06:27

Általa írva International, 14.07.2015 at 06:08

Does anyone have a transcript?

I'm afraid I never got around to replacing that broken headphone.

LOL

That is funny... because why?

Általa írva International, 14.07.2015 at 06:32

Általa írva Unleashed, 14.07.2015 at 06:27

Általa írva International, 14.07.2015 at 06:08

Does anyone have a transcript?

I'm afraid I never got around to replacing that broken headphone.

LOL

That is funny... because why?

Guess kikes don't have a sense of humour.

Általa írva Unleashed, 14.07.2015 at 06:34

Guess kikes don't have a sense of humour.

You assume I am Jewish. That's very odd.

Általa írva International, 14.07.2015 at 06:36

Általa írva Unleashed, 14.07.2015 at 06:34

Guess kikes don't have a sense of humour.

You assume I am Jewish. That's very odd.

what? John Stewart has like the best sense of humor ever

Általa írva Tirpitz406, 14.07.2015 at 07:21

-snip-

You've mentioned so many popular figures and TV shows to me over the past few months...

AND I KNOW EXACTLY NONE OF THEM

IT'S SO BLOODY FRUSTRATING

Ah well. Back to Google again.

Általa írva International, 14.07.2015 at 07:24

You've mentioned so many popular figures and TV shows to me over the past few months...

AND I KNOW EXACTLY NONE OF THEM

IT'S SO BLOODY FRUSTRATING

Ah well. Back to Google again.

I like TV, it's not dead yet, i'm not necrophilic

Általa írva Tirpitz406, 14.07.2015 at 07:31

I like TV, it's not dead yet, i'm not necrophilic

I like television as well. But US television shows are way, waaaaay beyond me.

Általa írva International, 14.07.2015 at 06:32

Általa írva Unleashed, 14.07.2015 at 06:27

Általa írva International, 14.07.2015 at 06:08

Does anyone have a transcript?

I'm afraid I never got around to replacing that broken headphone.

LOL

That is funny... because why?

if you dont have headphones you can at least read

Általa írva Unleashed, 15.07.2015 at 06:14

-snip-

What the image describes is an oligarchic dictatorship.

Democratic republicanism explains itself. Even to someone of twenty who never heard of a government.

Anyone who had to share candies with a sibling understands the concepts of power and authority. Anyone who saw a bully at school understands the concept of just and unjust rule. Government is quite intuitive to the human brain. At least it is to those human brains that didn't grow up in isolation.

Of course it is. What are you gonna do about it besides sit around on your computer and bitch all day? One day you will wake up and it will be your last. Stop wasting your time on bull shit.

Általa írva Unleashed, 15.07.2015 at 06:14

one fatal flaw

how do you go to school without a governement?

Általa írva Tirpitz406, 15.07.2015 at 15:43

Általa írva Unleashed, 15.07.2015 at 06:14

one fatal flaw

how do you go to school without a governement?

*Somewhere in USA, by the end of the 18th century*

But who will work if we abolish slavery?

You want to abolish slavery? A society just can't function without it. Are you crazy? You are the devil! You are an anarchist! Everything will turn into chaos and nobody will work the fields anymore, WE WILL STARVE AND CHAOS

Any similarities?

Általa írva Unleashed, 16.07.2015 at 00:47

Általa írva Tirpitz406, 15.07.2015 at 15:43

Általa írva Unleashed, 15.07.2015 at 06:14

one fatal flaw

how do you go to school without a governement?

*Somewhere in USA, by the end of the 18th century*

But who will work if we abolish slavery?

You want to abolish slavery? A society just can't function without it. Are you crazy? You are the devil! You are an anarchist! Everything will turn into chaos and nobody will work the fields anymore, WE WILL STARVE AND CHAOS

Any similarities?

That is an absurd argument. Slavery was not abolished in the true sense of the word. It was merely replaced with poverty.

If you seek to abolish government, what do you propose to replace it with?

Általa írva International, 16.07.2015 at 05:09

Slavery was not abolished in the true sense of the word. It was merely replaced with poverty.

That is an absurd ridiculous statement. And fallacious.

Általa írva Khal.eesi, 16.07.2015 at 06:22

Általa írva International, 16.07.2015 at 05:09

Slavery was not abolished in the true sense of the word. It was merely replaced with poverty.

That is an absurd ridiculous statement. And fallacious.

Why am I not surprised

Általa írva Khal.eesi, 16.07.2015 at 06:22

Általa írva International, 16.07.2015 at 05:09

Slavery was not abolished in the true sense of the word. It was merely replaced with poverty.

That is an absurd ridiculous statement. And fallacious.

Slavery was never abolished... just given a make-over so the masses don't recognize it. When your body was registered with the state, you were given a birth certificate to confirm the state 'certifies' you as their property, and your employment number (SC, SIN, etc) confirms the bondage once you're of age so you can't say you were fooled as a baby. Then you're given lots of 'goodies' and government handouts requiring your government ID, so you don't rebel.

Occasionally, the deception is put right out in plain view (the greek debt crisis is the latest example, where the greek people are outright labeled 'debtors' ... and it is their birth certificates/government ID which forms the basis of this commercial arrangement. As property, they have no rights, and so their creditors will dictate the terms (this is why the 'bailout' deal was worse than the conditions they voted 'no' for.... voting 'no' put them in default.)

What we can all learn, is nearly all of us are debtors to IMF and other world institutions, so everything happening to greeks in terms of 'austerity' can just as easily happen to the rest of us:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

Note that UK, US, Germany and France all have higher debt per person - so if you think it can't happen to you, you'd be under the spell of your government. Greece maybe just a testing ground... or perhaps a nation to be made example of... so the rest of the world can warm up to the idea of bowing to the bankers.

Általa írva brianwl, 16.07.2015 at 06:33

Általa írva Khal.eesi, 16.07.2015 at 06:22

Általa írva International, 16.07.2015 at 05:09

Slavery was not abolished in the true sense of the word. It was merely replaced with poverty.

That is an absurd ridiculous statement. And fallacious.

Slavery was never abolished... just given a make-over so the masses don't recognize it. When your body was registered with the state, you were given a birth certificate to confirm the state 'certifies' you as their property, and your employment number (SC, SIN, etc) confirms the bondage once you're of age so you can't say you were fooled as a baby. Then you're given lots of 'goodies' and government handouts requiring your government ID, so you don't rebel.

Occasionally, the deception is put right out in plain view (the greek debt crisis is the latest example, where the greek people are outright labeled 'debtors' ... and it is their birth certificates/government ID which forms the basis of this commercial arrangement. As property, they have no rights, and so their creditors will dictate the terms (this is why the 'bailout' deal was worse than the conditions they voted 'no' for.... voting 'no' put them in default.)

What we can all learn, is nearly all of us are debtors to IMF and other world institutions, so everything happening to greeks in terms of 'austerity' can just as easily happen to the rest of us:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

Note that UK, US, Germany and France all have higher debt per person - so if you think it can't happen to you, you'd be under the spell of your government. Greece maybe just a testing ground... or perhaps a nation to be made example of... so the rest of the world can warm up to the idea of bowing to the bankers.

Yes i agree with everything you said. +1. I live this every day, so im very familiar with it. Try to tell this to little kids like International, where they will reply its all a concpiracy theory and that we need to provide him more proof. Im not making this up, he actually has said this exact thing, when he was introduced to the idea of banks and elite owning and running Europe and whole countries in there and across the globe.

That being said i was objecting to international's argument which is quite different from what you said and can be summed up to "capitalist slavery in the 21st century". Officially human slavery and trade was abolished. And it was not replaced with poverty. That is false. And even if it were true, it would still be fallacious. Human slavery was the driving force behind capitalism , it actually made it possible. And the only ones who were trully gaining from slavery were the ruling elite and a minority of few. The same people, who continued gaining after slavery was abolished, when it was replaced by "wage slavery", meaning workers were paid to work, but only a small, insignificant amount of money. Capitalism brought poverty and not abolition of slavery.

Legal slavery was a method of making people do work for other people. Poverty does the same. They are therefore functionally equivalent - one is just worse than the other.

Általa írva Khal.eesi, 16.07.2015 at 07:04

Yes i agree with everything you said. +1. I live this every day, so im very familiar with it. Try to tell this to little kids like International, where they will reply its all a concpiracy theory and that we need to provide him more proof. Im not making this up, he actually has said this exact thing, when he was introduced to the idea of banks and elite owning and running Europe and whole countries in there and across the globe.

Rich people have power. That's somewhat different from the bankers running countries. Unless you are claiming election fraud, of which I'm still waiting for your evidence, the bankers do not "control" countries.

Általa írva Khal.eesi, 16.07.2015 at 07:04

That being said i was objecting to international's argument which is quite different from what you said and can be summed up to "capitalist slavery in the 21st century". Officially human slavery and trade was abolished. And it was not replaced with poverty. That is false. And even if it were true, it would still be fallacious. Human slavery was the driving force behind capitalism, it actually made it possible.

Slavery is quite different from poverty. For example, slaves have no rights. The impoverished has some.

Have you heard of Keynesian economics, by the way? Poverty is not the driving force behind capitalism. Poverty hinders capitalism from achieving its desired result.

Általa írva Khal.eesi, 16.07.2015 at 07:04

And the only ones who were trully gaining from slavery were the ruling elite and a minority of few. The same people, who continued gaining after slavery was abolished, when it was replaced by "wage slavery", meaning workers were paid to work, but only a small, insignificant amount of money. Capitalism brought poverty and not abolition of slavery.

On the contrary, capitalism is the solution to poverty.

Since you are unable (or unwilling, perhaps) to understand the concepts of marginal utility and relative efficiency, I've almost given up trying to explain why. But let me try again nonetheless.

In a correctly regulated capitalist economy, acts which benefit the person who does them also benefit society as a whole. That's why the world economy is worth eighty trillion dollars a year and that's why nine-tenths of the world population aren't peasants.

Általa írva Unleashed, 15.07.2015 at 06:14

Who is paying for the school to operate such as teachers salary, equipment and land costs? Who trains the teachers? How are they paid? Is there a currency? Who makes it and how do they defend it from fraud and opposing currencies? Who asserts what the curriculum is? Who sets up the disciplinary measures? Who decides who is qualified to teach? Who decides who runs the school? How is cost distributed?

Schools and universities have ALWAYS been institutions created and run by states or religious institutions. There has always been an overseeing hierarchy which dictates how it is paid for and what it teaches. Again, this fairy world of a functioning state without a state is a childs dream.

The hierarchy isn't a middle man preventing this functioning school, it is the collective which built it, funds it and keeps it functioning. In your anarchy, 'individuals' would have to pool money together and setup a council or committee to operate such a school. That council and committee is no different from a government or a state. And it can be just as corrupt.

Do you REALLY think a collective pool of people sending their children to the same school wont develop tribal bonds and seek to expand influence while protecting their own interests? Do you think they wont want to teach their children views to protect those interests?

I don't expect a reply. Cowards can't defend their views.

Általa írva brianwl, 16.07.2015 at 06:33

Slavery was never abolished... just given a make-over so the masses don't recognize it. When your body was registered with the state, you were given a birth certificate to confirm the state 'certifies' you as their property, and your employment number (SC, SIN, etc) confirms the bondage once you're of age so you can't say you were fooled as a baby. Then you're given lots of 'goodies' and government handouts requiring your government ID, so you don't rebel.

This isn't new. A child born into a tribe is collectively owned by that tribe but they are brought up by its family who are responsible for it. Every child ever born has been owned by someone, molded by someone and incentivized to continue to emulate the success of its forefathers. It has the choice to leave the tribe but it would only be faced with scorn when entering into other foreign tribes, forced to adapt and naturalize, which wastes time better spent collecting resources in the tribe that created you. The States current methods are more complicated, more intrusive and far less communal but the concept is the same. We are all owned by someone.

Általa írva brianwl, 16.07.2015 at 06:33

Note that UK, US, Germany and France all have higher debt per person - so if you think it can't happen to you, you'd be under the spell of your government. Greece maybe just a testing ground... or perhaps a nation to be made example of... so the rest of the world can warm up to the idea of bowing to the bankers.

Indeed. But one test wasn't allowed to be used for experimentation. What would a Fascist party do in Greece? Syriza did exactly as I said it would and yet leftists will still support leftism despite decades and decades of banker and leftist partnership and grovelling.

The Fascist does not compromise or negotiate. They do not give into bankers. They put their people and ideals first before foreign influence. The Golden Dawn would never have capitulated and that is why the bankers an establishment continues to fear the rise of Fascism. Fascism would crush their influence, seize their assets and influence other states to do the same. The globalists seek to privatize and erode the concept of the nation state. The Fascist seeks to strengthen it. The bankers cannot operate properly in systems where they cannot influence democratic elections or influence its society via media and finances. Fascism is an ideal specifically designed to compete with the current globalist hierarchy, erase its influence and eventually overthrow it. Nationalization of banking, media, government and the repeal of democracy functions to prevent the exertion of detrimental foreign influence, allowing the native peoples to focus purely on their own interests.

Never ever trust the Left. It's entire purpose has been to fragment societies, distract through tension and to usurp or co opt previous hierarchies and prevent any competition to their rule. It's biggest opposition is a self interested state. This is why the Left always capitulates. The Left was created by the bankers. They will do as they are told because they are useful idiots.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 16.07.2015 at 10:22

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This isn't new. A child born into a tribe is collectively owned by that tribe but they are brought up by its family who are responsible for it. Every child ever born has been owned by someone, molded by someone and incentivized to continue to emulate the success of its forefathers. It has the choice to leave the tribe but it would only be faced with scorn when entering into other foreign tribes, forced to adapt and naturalize, which wastes time better spent collecting resources in the tribe that created you. The States current methods are more complicated, more intrusive and far less communal but the concept is the same. We are all owned by someone.

What's relatively new is the 'owners' being 'foreign', using deception to make that ownership 'legal' , while at that same time having no genuine concern for the child.

Általa írva International, 16.07.2015 at 08:24

Legal slavery was a method of making people do work for other people. Poverty does the same. They are therefore functionally equivalent - one is just worse than the other.

Legal slavery does not exist. Its in your head and you just made it up. Wage slavery is what followed slavery, which was legal as fuck, but thats irrelevant at this point.
So, slavery was a PRACTICE. Some people forcefully subjected other people to relocate, work without pay, food, medicine and endure rape, torture and death. Directly and against their will. Poverty is a state where someone doesnt have the necessary food and medicine to support himself properly, due to numerous reasons. THEY ARE NOT FUNCTΙΟΝALLY EQUIVALENT. Your argument is as weak, as the women in Afganistan. Just admit you fucked up and we move on.

Általa írva International, 16.07.2015 at 08:24

Rich people have power. That's somewhat different from the bankers running countries. Unless you are claiming election fraud, of which I'm still waiting for your evidence, the bankers do not "control" countries.

Apparently, you are the first and only person in the whole atwar community with these ignorant beliefs. How old are you seriously?10? I have told you in the past, i am not getting paid to be your private teacher and educating you on every single topic you have no idea about. I told you to educate yourself on simple things, like how the banking system works, how the DEBT system works, what exactly are the "bailouts" and where the money goes. But i guess you didnt. There are tons of articles and videos with subtitles, cause you cant spend 10 dollars to buy new speakers, that will help you. Anyway i fail to see what elections have to do with the banks. Bankers control the money, they control the debts, they own the earth, i think they can buy governments if they please. Thats capitalism in the 21st century, deal with it.

"Give me control of a nations money supply, and I care not who makes it's laws"
- Mater Amschel Rothschild, founder of the Rothschild banking dynasty

Általa írva International, 16.07.2015 at 08:24

Általa írva Khal.eesi, 16.07.2015 at 07:04

That being said i was objecting to international's argument which is quite different from what you said and can be summed up to "capitalist slavery in the 21st century". Officially human slavery and trade was abolished. And it was not replaced with poverty. That is false. And even if it were true, it would still be fallacious. Human slavery was the driving force behind capitalism, it actually made it possible.

Have you heard of Keynesian economics, by the way? Poverty is not the driving force behind capitalism. Poverty hinders capitalism from achieving its desired result.

You are a little lost kid. I never said poverty was the driving force behind capitalism, now did i? I said, slavery was. Go read again what i wrote. And if you think thats false, go argue with historians and economists, not me.

Általa írva International, 16.07.2015 at 08:24

Általa írva Khal.eesi, 16.07.2015 at 07:04

And the only ones who were trully gaining from slavery were the ruling elite and a minority of few. The same people, who continued gaining after slavery was abolished, when it was replaced by "wage slavery", meaning workers were paid to work, but only a small, insignificant amount of money. Capitalism brought poverty and not abolition of slavery.

On the contrary, capitalism is the solution to poverty.

Since you are unable (or unwilling, perhaps) to understand the concepts of marginal utility and relative efficiency, I've almost given up trying to explain why. But let me try again nonetheless.

In a correctly regulated capitalist economy, acts which benefit the person who does them also benefit society as a whole. That's why the world economy is worth eighty trillion dollars a year and that's why nine-tenths of the world population aren't peasants.

Again you are spouting theory like always. In a correctly regulated bla bla bla Grow up and stop the infantilism already. First of all explain how abolition of slavery brought poverty. And if it did, explain how its not related to capitalism, that was established at the same period.

You want to portray todays capitalism as ethical or "conscious". Then you say anarchism is utopian. And your "correctly regulated" isnt. Well, in real life it doesnt work that way, because our system is based on the thing you love so much, that is "greed". /applaud. In our system, thanks to corporate lobbyists, income is propelled upwards leading to continual rising of income inequality. Profit is privatized while loss is socialized, allowing for a few the benefit of exploding wealth while the incomes of the majority collapse. This ongoing debasement works like a feudal system. And the poverty that we experience now is different from the poverty, in earlier decades and centuries, where wars, diseases and crop shortages added to the equation. It is man made. Bank made. Corporation made. And capital that is hoarded without being put back into circulation, like in our precious capitalism, is why capitalism is not the solution to poverty, more like it causes it, in a time where the planets resources, our knowledge and technological advancements as a race, have reached a point, where every single one of us, should live a well provided and healthy life with all our needs and more, well covered. When 85 people control half the world's wealth and this gap widens every year, you know something is not right. That the world economy is worth eighty trillion dollars/ year means shit to me and is actually worrysome. You should not look at it on a positive light, unless you are a shit for brains idiot or the son of a big corporation executive, in which case fuck you.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 16.07.2015 at 10:22

Syriza did exactly as I said it would and yet leftists will still support leftism despite decades and decades of banker and leftist partnership and grovelling.

The Fascist does not compromise or negotiate. They do not give into bankers. They put their people and ideals first before foreign influence. The Golden Dawn would never have capitulated and that is why the bankers an establishment continues to fear the rise of Fascism. Fascism would crush their influence, seize their assets and influence other states to do the same.

Its too early to tell what will happen with certainty and why the Prime minister did what he did. What i know for sure is that i was a witness of the humongous war, Euro-elite, banks and all the corrupted Greece political system and media, launched against Syriza these past 6 months its been on power. First time i ever see a government being hit so ferociously, from all sides, even internally. All rotten, corrupted Pasok-Nea Dimokratia politicians were attacking Syriza and so were all the private media. The Europe pressure was also great, they closed our banks and threatened us directly with destruction. When subhuman scum like Merkel, Shauble and Eurogroup sweat so much and start a bloody campaign against a specific government, then you know that government is doing something right. But the pressure was too much.I really would not blame my primeminister for giving up. And I dont know everything that happened and neither do you, as the truth never gets out in these circumstances. All i know is the guy atleast tried. And Syriza is now torned, as there are tons of members and even ministers who want to break from it, reject the deal and go head-on against Europe.

I will agree with you, that fascists would not compromise. Im pretty positive, Greece under fascists would exit Euro and Eurozone,strenthen ties with Russia, China and India, raise exports and cut on imports from West, cause Greece can cover 95% of its needs without imports, thats a known fact. And then start taking advantage of all the energy, Greece is so rich in. Im positive fascist governent would try to do it. But do you think Germany and USA would let her be? Look at what happened with Serbia, when it stood for its rights? They bombed it and let the muslims (Albanians) fuck them in the ass. Whos to say we wouldnt get bombed as well and subhuman muslims (kebabs) wouldnt fuck us in the ass? They been waiting for an opportunity like this, for decades now. The more Euro-elite forces us to cut back on defence funding, the more bold kebabs get by entering our air and naval space. And an isolated Greece without cash, would be a brilliant opportunity for the subhumans to strike. And dont tell me Russia would help, cause it would not. Just like it didnt help Serbia.

On a last not, about Golden Dawn and fascists in Greece in general, i want you to keep something in mind. Greeks lived 400 years under Ottoman occupation. That means they value individuality and personal freedom, above all. Yes we would love to bring Golden Dawn to power. Even me and all my friends. We would love to see them round all the corrupted politicians and hang them in the main square. We would love to see them defying the ruling global elite and exit Europe. We would love to have politicians that atlast work for the good of our country. Cause im sure they would. BUT. Not in expense of our personal freedom and liberties as human beings. Im not giving up social freedom and equality for this. Not gonna let them censor books, media, tv, internet, radio stations, all mediums of free speech and thought, arts and forms of human creativity. Not gonna let them bring religion and church back. Not gonna let them discriminate people based on their sexuality, gender and hunt them down in the streets and beat them up. Cause thats what they were doing. And for simpler things, like how people were dressed and where they were hanging out. And thankfully most of the people here, share my thoughts and feelings on this.
You know now why Golden Dawn will never get power in Greece and why fascists globally will never, either. Because while people value their economic and finacial well-being, they value their social liberties and freedom, more. Better a slave to the global elite, that at least lets me live my life, no matter how fucked up it is, than slave to a facist state, be provided with the basics and have no life of my own,at all.

a quick video (25 min approx) by british born, now American philosopher Neil Kramer on 'empire' (state government) which just came out about a week ago... most of the people on this thread will enjoy i think...

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 16.07.2015 at 09:56

Who is paying for the school to operate such as teachers salary, equipment and land costs? Who trains the teachers? How are they paid? Is there a currency? Who makes it and how do they defend it from fraud and opposing currencies? Who asserts what the curriculum is? Who sets up the disciplinary measures? Who decides who is qualified to teach? Who decides who runs the school? How is cost distributed?

Because the government does such an amazing job at training the teachers. You talk as if you've never been in school. They spoon feed you all the bullshit in the world and never teach you anything useful. Except propaganda. That's useful. For them. I can only hear you ask one question.

Who will pick the cotton if we abolish slavery?

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 16.07.2015 at 09:56

Schools and universities have ALWAYS been institutions created and run by states or religious institutions.

And there lies the problem.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 16.07.2015 at 09:56

I don't expect a reply. Cowards can't defend their views.

Have you taken into consideration the fact that I may not be bothered discussing with someone as hopelessly dysfunctional and damaged as you are?

The bottom line is, you do not want freedom, therefore any attempt of mine to convince you of anything is futile.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 16.07.2015 at 09:56

Who is paying for the school to operate such as teachers salary, equipment and land costs? Who trains the teachers? How are they paid? Is there a currency? Who makes it and how do they defend it from fraud and opposing currencies? Who asserts what the curriculum is? Who sets up the disciplinary measures? Who decides who is qualified to teach? Who decides who runs the school? How is cost distributed?

Because the government does such an amazing job at training the teachers. You talk as if you've never been in school. They spoon feed you all the bullshit in the world and never teach you anything useful. Except propaganda. That's useful. For them. I can only hear you ask one question.

Who will pick the cotton if we abolish slavery?

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 16.07.2015 at 09:56

Schools and universities have ALWAYS been institutions created and run by states or religious institutions.

And there lies the problem.

Általa írva Tik-Tok, 16.07.2015 at 09:56

I don't expect a reply. Cowards can't defend their views.

Have you taken into consideration the fact that I may not be bothered discussing with someone as hopelessly dysfunctional and damaged as you are?

The bottom line is, you do not want freedom, therefore any attempt of mine to convince you of anything is futile.

Általa írva Khal.eesi, 16.07.2015 at 13:29

I was wrong about everything and now I must rationalize the error of my ways by claiming my sexual preference is worth more than the lives of everyone around me

Your prime minister is a globalist stooge who went to the US to meet with Obama and said he would do anything the IMF told him to do. I told you that, you denied it, you didn't listen. He is a coward and so are all leftists, so willing to sell their own nation.

The US isn't going to invade. Serbia wasn't supported because the Soviet Union had just collapsed and Russia wasn't able to help. Russia is stronger now and Greece is more important. The Kebabs aren't going to invade, immigration is the biggest problem regarding kebab and again, your precious leftists are opening the border. Yes, the Establishment will put enormous pressure on people who oppose their control but leftists cave in. So why support cowards when Fascists are well known to never cave to these people?

You admit that the Golden Dawn is the solution. You admit they would bring about future and prosperity but you oppose them because you will lose 'muh freedoms'. What freedoms? Greek youth have 75% unemployment, drug addiction grows, crime grows, prostitution up by 150% and vast oligarchs are now buying up your nations greatest assets for cheap. Business is shut down, debt increases and now you're going to get austerity on steroids. But that's ALL OK because you get be a homosexual degenerate who can give fellatio to drug addled strangers.

Who ares about the starving Greeks, the Greeks without electricity, the Greeks without future, the Greeks without money, wealth or influence. What of the right to walk the streets at night unaccosted or the right to buy and sell to who you please? What of the right of the Greek people to be Greek and to be represented by their own? What of the right to not be forced into debt while an oligarchy influences education, media and social policy to incentivise irresponsibility and idiocracy?

But no, rather than a having a functioning Fascist system which benefits everyone, you prefer your progressive language, written by the very bankers who just bought you so you can squeal about your homo pride and your 'freedom'.

The term 'Freedom is Slavery' has never been better illustrated than by your cuckolded post. You are a traitor, a coward and a cuck trying to rationalize the fact that your leftist idealism is a banker created joke and that you have opposed your own solution.

You are a peasant with a peasant mind. Peasants are their own worse enemy. You know that Fascism is the solution, it is future but you continue to support the very antithesis of your goals just because they let you be a homo.

This motto defines you...

"What they tell you is 'Liberty' is a Prison,
What they call 'Rights' are laws which take them away,
What they call an 'Open Mind' is a closed one,
What they teach as 'Learning' is indoctrination,
What they hate is what is normal,
What they value is what is worthless."

Általa írva Unleashed, 17.07.2015 at 02:24

Because the government does such an amazing job at training the teachers.

It did, for thousands of years. All educational institutions have been fermented, funded and built by states or religious institutions. A government of some kind has always been present in their creation and maintenance. The teachers of today are only bad because the Establishment that exists today wants idiocracy. But the solution isn't anarchy as all it does is create a vacuum that anyone can fill. The state must be replaced. As I've said before, if you want to see what happens when states fail, look at Iraq. It isn't peaceful, anarchists don't rise up. Instead, violent tribalism takes control and a new state is created. It is inevitable.

Általa írva Unleashed, 17.07.2015 at 02:24

Who will pick the cotton if we abolish slavery?

Another moronic post which you think is intellectual but isn't when analyzed. The cotton fields were owned and maintained. A state gave legal protection to land owners. Abolition destroyed the South as did the tariffs by the North on their ports. The South tried to secede and it was crushed.

That's what happens when you fight a stronger more willing opponent. Northern aggression is a perfect example as to why anarchy fails. The North created a powerful dictatorship state which banned media opposition and enforced conscription so it could conquer the South. The South at least had a state and government so they could put up a fight. Anarchists can't defend shit. You can't beat a state that conducts total war and there will never be a time where there isn't a powerful state neighbor.

Általa írva Unleashed, 17.07.2015 at 02:24

And there lies the problem.

Its called reality. You are in a catch 22. Without the state and hierarchies, education wouldn't exist. Without such institutions, education cannot be defended from opposing states. You think your solution is so grand and simple. It's not, it's a complicated world of intrigue. Every action has consequence and you are constantly surrounded by predators who want to manipulate you for their own ends. There is no place for non-aggression idealism or platitudes of anarchy and peace. I accept what our species is and work with it, you seem to just deny it.

Általa írva Unleashed, 17.07.2015 at 02:24

Have you taken into consideration the fact that I may not be bothered discussing with someone as hopelessly dysfunctional and damaged as you are?

Whatever m8. I can defend my view, no matter the opposition. You prefer to play in your anarchist sandbox where you get to claim superiority to everyone else because your world view is unattainable and in tests has failed irrevocably. You support anarchism because you know it will never be implemented so you don't have to actually adopt a realistic stance which requires you to act.

Pussy posting may mays is not action. It's a sand box mentality. It's safe, it's secure and you can play the moral high ground in every conversation. Realistic tried and tested solutions demand action. Your impossible narrative lets you do nothing because you don't have to actually act on it.

Általa írva Unleashed, 17.07.2015 at 02:24

The bottom line is, you do not want freedom,

Freedom is subjective. Rights are subjective. Morality is subjective. That's the point. I want future, order, security, sustainability and to grow unimpeded. We are beasts and I want my people to become as close to gods as is possible.

Általa írva Unleashed, 17.07.2015 at 02:24

therefore any attempt of mine to convince you of anything is futile.

Debate is never for the debated. It is for the audience.