Kony 2012

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Joseph Kony, for around 25 years, has terrorized African children by abducting them. Girls became sexual slaves, and boys were forced to kill people, even their parents, for Kony. Now I don't mean children as in teens, though they may be inclusive, but I mean kids as young as 7 or 8 are abducted as well! He has done this to thousands of Ugandan and Central African children. Kony is currently the #1 most wanted international criminal, but about 85% of people still don't know who he is. Help put a stop to this by spreading the world. If you wish to know more, go to the link displayed below, and it will lead to a YouTube video. There are other links, but this will cost the least amount of time (around 30 min) to fully understand this dire situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc&feature=player_embedded

No need for teh big ass search party......... I CAN KILL HIM ME SELF! Africa is my half motherland I must know it like the back of my hand.

Please support this. +1

Kony 2012!

As much as he should be stopped there hasn't even been a confirmed sighting of him in 6 years. They don't even know if he's still alive.

Huuurp duurp I just found out about it.

I appreciate the work of social media, but the charity could do a bit more. The main reason this prick hasn't been caught yet is the Congolese state's incompetence and utter inefficience. Some 10 years of nearly continuous warfare with neighbouring states don't really help The regime is useless, too, but at least they're not evil dictators.

IMO a large-scale American military intervention which Invisible Children supports would work pretty well in this situation. Unlike al-Qaeda and the Taliban, these people (kids!) are not really fighting for a cause like he claims (he uses Christianity), but out of fear. Most actual Christians are terrified of him and his army. I wouldn't think that any guerrilla warfare would take place the event of an international intervention. Unfortunately, the US is in a pretty crappy financial state and all the other countries are either too evil (China, Russia) to care or too weak (all the other members of the modern Congress of Vienna UN Security Council) to be able to do anything about it. Best solution is that the Congolese state gets its shit together and takes care of these despicable people.

Discuss! This solution to the LRA problem, that is!

EDIT: this post is stupid, as I realised in a message below. Disregard most of its content please.

Apparently Invisible Children is a fraud -- only 6 million actually goes to the Ugandan government, who does nothing. Can anyone confirm or deny? I want to do something but I don't want to get scammed.

Deeerp Uganda. Got confused again. Disregard my earlier post, but some points are still valid.

Yeah Vaglneer, that's about right. Something like 34% went to filming and salaries. Pretty shit charity in terms of solving the problem, though I think it works kind of by raising awareness.

Általa írva Busaum, 11.03.2012 at 16:06

http://imgur.com/q9SW5 because this thing is frickin' enormous. ENORMOUS!!!

This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. I know it's only a bit of comedy, but it still has hipsterish ideals of the government controlling everything and all that bullcrap. By reading enough of this BS you eventually come to believe it. You can't stay on that path, it just ain't healthy really.

Nice 4chan meme by the way. Sarcasm of course, because 4chan is the least-respected of all the imageboards and by a very long shot.

Soulja Boy talk too much smack. I even heard him diss the military (who gives a fuck about the police they deserve to be dissed) and then says he's sorry in a new song. WTF? That boy need Jesus. Still makes good music though.

I make story about near future.

Kony open child park.



Kony make child army.



Somebody wuz like.........



The plot thickens.



Da kids start war.


Kony is defeated.


True Story

Who cares about Africans, they breed like crazy, so it doesn't really matter how many die, thousands will take their place.
Besides, Kony is really trying to do something good (create a Christian advanced society free of corruption, Islam, etc.)
I think this video was made by the American FBI just to prepare and reason the future ground for an invasion of Uganda/Africa, as China is gaining too much influence in the region.

Általa írva KnightTemplar2083, 14.03.2012 at 09:29

so it doesn't really matter how many die

and you call your self a christian?

Last time I checked, Kony hasn't been relevant in years. He probably died already as well, Afrika y'know?

Általa írva VozdKaradjordje, 14.03.2012 at 17:59

Általa írva KnightTemplar2083, 14.03.2012 at 09:29

so it doesn't really matter how many die

and you call your self a christian?

If Africans didn't die in thousands like flies then Europe would be literally filled with them(it already is though)., cause they raise 10-12 children per family (while Europeans have 1-2).

Általa írva KnightTemplar2083, 14.03.2012 at 19:33

Általa írva VozdKaradjordje, 14.03.2012 at 17:59

Általa írva KnightTemplar2083, 14.03.2012 at 09:29

so it doesn't really matter how many die

and you call your self a christian?

If Africans didn't die in thousands like flies then Europe would be literally filled with them(it already is though)., cause they raise 10-12 children per family (while Europeans have 1-2).

1. You are a horrible person
2. In Central Africa the average amount of children per household is 5-6
3. Christianity and Islam are equally full of shit so it doesn't really matter
4. It's more than a game of numbers. Every life has meaning no matter how many people there are in the country you live in
5. Why is it so bad to have Africans in Europe?
6. If you go far enough back your ancestors aren't originally from Europe either so why do you think that you have some special claim to the entire continent?

>doesn't live in europe
>why is it so bad to have africans in europe

Also he relevance of their life is less than that of the european or the american no matter how harsh it sounds, plus that if you go far back assumption is completely retarded.

Általa írva Aristosseur, 14.03.2012 at 20:09

>doesn't live in europe
>why is it so bad to have africans in europe

Also he relevance of their life is less than that of the european or the american no matter how harsh it sounds, plus that if you go far back assumption is completely retarded.

Pointing out typographical errors doesn't completely discredit an argument.

I don't live in Europe but considering the fact that Canada is a very multicultural country I'm able to say that immigrants aren't the end of the world. If you aren't happy living in a war ravaged country it only makes sense to go somewhere where you can live in relative peace like Europe. Also, even if we perceive their lives as less relevant in developed countries it doesn't mean that it's a good thing to have them die.

Why is my argument so retarded to you? It's just my way of asking what you think gives you the right to live in Europe over anyone else? Because you were born there? Fine but your ancestors weren't What gave them the right to live there?

Also, why do you think it's okay for someone to move from country to country in Europe but "god forbid if someone was to come from another continent". Are you just plain racist?

Where did I point out a typographical error? I pointed out you saying africans coming from a completely different cultural background immigrating to Europe and you being able to form no opinion because you don't live here.
Why does Europe have to accept those refugees? I didn't say it's a good thing to have them die. Your argument is retarded because you assume Rushka's ancestors were't European therefore it somehow debases his beliefs and yes I was born there, lex sanguinis, assume again my ancestors weren't. As for inter european migration I explained on the cultural differences and the general background of the person. There is too much edgy left on your post, your ancestors weren't and accept all etc and the classic ending of ad hominem and labelling are you racist.

Általa írva Aristosseur, 14.03.2012 at 22:10

Where did I point out a typographical error? I pointed out you saying africans coming from a completely different cultural background immigrating to Europe and you being able to form no opinion because you don't live here.
Why does Europe have to accept those refugees? I didn't say it's a good thing to have them die. Your argument is retarded because you assume Rushka's ancestors were't European therefore it somehow debases his beliefs and yes I was born there, lex sanguinis, assume again my ancestors weren't. As for inter european migration I explained on the cultural differences and the general background of the person. There is too much edgy left on your post, your ancestors weren't and accept all etc and the classic ending of ad hominem and labelling are you racist.

IEM ZEE GOVERNOR OF COLI-FLOWER! BILLY! GET TO THE CHOPPER!

Even if I don't live in Europe I still live in a country with lots of refugees from various cultural backgrounds. What do we do about it? We go on with our lives. They aren't coming into your country with the intent of destroying your culture. They simply want to live in peace.

No matter how long your ancestors have lived in Europe, considering that human life originated from the Ethiopia/Kenya area, eventually everyone in Europe is a descendant of someone from outside of Europe. I know it's a stretch but I'm just trying to prove the point that everyone is an immigrant of sorts.

"They aren't coming into your country with the intent of destroying your culture. They simply want to live in peace"
-First I'm not against any type of immigration but "they simply want to live in peace" is'nt a valid arguments. We need people that come here because they love our nation(Quebec nation for me canadian for you) and WANT to be assimilated in the majority. And if you come in a country, and you just want to leave in peace not trying to learn the language and the culture, you are de facto destroying the culture! Why because when more immigrants will come they will follow the past immigrants and continu to live with their old culture. Result? A)In a few decades a huge proportion of our nation won't have our culture and B) May influence our culture so by this fact destroying it and building a new one.

"No matter how long your ancestors have lived in Europe"
-Yes it matters, if your descendants are in a designated area since a long time, they have build there own culture. By exemple the amerindians that were coming from siberia don't have the same culture than the asians today. Why because they are here since a long time and they build there own culture.
-Now european colonist arrive, and what arrive to the amerindian culture destroyed. Why because the amerindian could not stop the european immigrants.
-Now brittish arrive in New-France: Result everywhere except in Quebec(And some small places liek Saint-Boniface louisiana and acadia) the "frenchs" lose there french culture. Why Quebec resisted??? Because of one fact the Church that protected the quebec culture by assimilating others catholics like the irish and by keeping the quebeckers outside of the corrupted cities like Montreal and Quebec(Tey were in majority brittish in the past). This saved Quebec, the language was safe, teh religion was safe and durign this time a quebecker culture was born distinct from the french culture.
-Now those 2 nations the assimilated one(Rest of New-France) and the one that resisted(Quebec) face a new treat coming from everywhere especially from India and China. WE HAVE to assimilate these immigrants and to pick the right ones. There is a limit to our capacity to assimilate(Especially in Quebec, because of the french language surrounded by english speaking area). Currently what are we seeing? the big cities start to have there own culture, Toronto don't represent anymore Ontario, Montreal do not represent the Quebec.

-The solution to the immigrants problem:
1.We need imigrants(Not enough child by women)
2.We need to pick wisely our immigrants(Catholics, and french speaking are much better in quebec than by exemple indian from india or chinese that can't fuckign learn french and refuse to be assimilated) and not to send them all in the same place(Toronto,Vancouver, and Montreal receive teh vast majority of immigrants in Canada)
3.We need to just pick the right number of immigrants to fit our needs, more is risky... why takign a chance to lose our culture ifwe don't need them
4. If the center city are lose to the multiculturalism system, we need to leave them and try to preserve our culture outside of these cities. Than like Quebec did claiming them back when the demographis situation will be better. One day all this babyboomers will die after alll...... and hopefully one day every western nations will try to stay at 2.1 child by women....I don't see teh problems with 2.1 child it's nto a lot... you just need that every women have a small family of 2 children ... a minority will want more children and we will reach 2.1 and more... Currently our situation isnt catastrophic... to survive the quebeckers had to have somethign like 12 children by women in the past.

In the end I think we should just agree to disagree before this gets more out of hand then it already is.

I find it funny that almost every post you make ends up being about the separation of Quebec lol. I understand what you guys are saying and I think it has more to do with myself not growing up in a part of the world that necessarily values the preservation of culture. I have always deeply valued my own French culture but never really saw the need to block out other cultures to preserve my own but that is just the value system of my family and my community. I find it funny how when learning colonial history in school, because I go to a French school, they always portrayed the English as the "bad guys" and I imagined that the English schools taught the opposite.

I am myself the descendant of French soldiers from the colonial time on both sides of my family and all my grandparents were born in Quebec so I could sympathise with you. As for Aristosseur, I don't understand the situation in Europe completely so I will respect your opinion.

No problem, also sorry if all my post ends up about the separation of quebec. It's just that I like to talk of political subjects and that for me everything political is an argument for quebec independance=)

Lol I get it. It's something your very passionate about. All the power to you. The problem I've had with separatists is that they are usually very disrespectful to me because I live in Ontario and to them that makes me some kind of traitor or something or no matter how well I speak French I'm never "French enough" for them XD. Didn't choose where I was born. I'm glad that you're not like that lol and that we could have an actual discussion about the subject.

Vive le Quebec libre!

Counterpart, since ThomasMer annihilated all your progressive-tainted arguments except one, allow me destroy the last (edit: and expand my argument a whole lot further).

Általa írva Counterpart, 14.03.2012 at 19:55

6. If you go far enough back your ancestors aren't originally from Europe either so why do you think that you have some special claim to the entire continent?

Same goes for you in Canada, why do you have a claim to the continent, really? I'll assume you're a white Canadian without the blood of Native Americans.

That's the problem with collectivism, which is what form your argument takes. Let me give you an example: the whites of South Africa, formerly the Boers (archaic term now) were settlers of Dutch descent who famously curbed British rule after having their two states conquered by them in the Second Boer War following a heroic battle for their survival. They quickly took matters into their own hands and by 1910, the Union of South Africa was created where the Boers had the largest share in parliament. They passed a load of racist laws in order to make up for the emancipation of the slaves (not only Zulu, mind you) by the British. By the end of WW2 it was a state dominated by whites.

Now obviously that's some pretty heavy-handed discrimination right there. The blacks* had been there since forever, and the Dutch settlers some 400 years themselves. I guess it's not the same thing as the Canadians who still have strong cultural ties to England, as the Afrikaners (what they came to be called) developed their own culture.

But still, do you think these people had to leave South Africa when they lost control and had to let the blacks vote ("coloured" people could already I think)? Desmond Tutu is a brilliant man, for he was perhaps the first major black political force in South Africa to advocate reconciliation rather than imposing black rule on the whites, or even rioting against them like many blacks did. That's what you're advocating. Most of the Afrikaans (Dutch creole)-speaking whites in particular had no connections to Europe whatsoever. Some of those with roots in England still went to visit their cousins abroad, but this was still their home. And it was also the home of the blacks. A small immigrant family that blasts their weird music and claims welfare from the government meant to represent its own people has no home in the land they emigrate to. Just because homo sapiens came from Africa and fucked the Neanderthals of Europe to extinction (true story, and the most likely cause for their extinction, homo sapiens had the dominant genes and bred with Neanderthals like crazy) doesn't mean the whole planet should belong to Africans.

But more importantly, what your ancestors did 200 fucking years ago is of no importance. Heck, you're 16 like me and have begun rebelling against your parents and trying to be as different from them as possible. And that's your parents, not your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfathers. Just because they came from Africa doesn't mean they should have an influence on today's world, and it doesn't mean they have any claims to mess with their lives of Europeans in any way. And the shift in culture is subtle yet evident as you go from more traditional rural areas to the poor estates of the immigrant-infested cities. I'm not saying either culture is better, mind you; but culture stems from society and its values, and immigrants are outsiders who often unintentionally disrupt it. Unless they assimilate. This is what Rushkaball is talking about when he is talking about "cultural Marxism".

Sorry about the long post. I could have phrased my argument better but you will probably get the message by the end of it. I tried as hard as I could to not focus on specific groups of immigrants like Rushka. The main difference between mine and his views is that he--while he doesn't want to admit it--is fundamentally against race mixing too, while I say that love has no boundaries. If you haven't noticed, he's really just bashing African refugees and illegal immigrants. There are very few of them, but there are some educated and very smart Africans too in top government positions. But that's because they assimilated into the culture, can speak the language perfectly, and very importantly--were usually born in that land. Don't forget the importance of this attachment. Perhaps the best way to combat rampant immigration and a destruction of culture would be to increase education, because these people can see the benefits of emigrating to a different society and the importance of fitting in rather than just looking for others that speak their language or something. Immigrants must make themselves useful to be accepted, and change their values, appearance and language to adapt to the place they're living in. And before you say anything, I'm an immigrant to this country myself and I've fitted in to the point that other groups of immigrants don't feel that brotherhood of sorts with me anymore. You need to shun off your links to your previous life or you'll always be that foreign guy. I hope I made sense.

* Black is considered the most neutral term for a black person in the UK, before you hating on me.

Általa írva Counterpart, 14.03.2012 at 19:55

1. You are a horrible person

BTW, ad hominem never works. It just makes you look like a retard, don't do it. I tried to ignore your use of ad hominem while writing my reply, but not everyone does.

PS: I have no idea how the thread turned to this... it's off-topic, but the best kind of off-topic discussion, something intellectually stimulating for once!