France surrenders once again...

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 15:58

Sure thing I'm down

Edit I'll get rid of mine as soon as some suite iv never met stops in forcing there's on me.

You realize that's what every single media does, right? And you also realize media is not gonna stop doing that any time soon, right?

Általa írva RaulPB, 08.05.2017 at 17:34

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 15:58

Sure thing I'm down

Edit I'll get rid of mine as soon as some suite iv never met stops in forcing there's on me.

You realize that's what every single media does, right? And you also realize media is not gonna stop doing that any time soon, right?

Correct it answered your question. I am free to my opinion and I'm free to voice my opinion. Just because you grew up in the liberal sheep farm of western Europe doesn't make my opinion irrelevant plenty of americans Hells the americans who are most capable of getting shit done share many of my view points, but that doesn't make me right wing. I'm pro choice pro lgbt pro enviornmentalist. I support anything that allows people to do things in a free and safe matter in the persuite of happiness. But again it's my opinions.

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 17:39

Correct it answered your question. I am free to my opinion and I'm free to voice my opinion. Just because you grew up in the liberal sheep farm of western Europe doesn't make my opinion irrelevant plenty of americans Hells the americans who are most capable of getting shit done share many of my view points, but that doesn't make me right wing. I'm pro choice pro lgbt pro enviornmentalist. I support anything that allows people to do things in a free and safe matter in the persuite of happiness. But again it's my opinions.

Are you really calling western Europe to be liberal? Wow. You've clearly never been to Spain my friend... I invite you to come any time you want, my home is your home

Your opinion is not irrelevant, but neither is liberals' opinion, commies' opinion, anarchists' opinion, leftists's opinion, enviromentalists's opinion, etc. And the list goes on. But those are opinions. We need facts from time to time....

For real, what the heck do you think a liberal is? Is everyone in aw liberal or what....? Fuck sake, ask before tagging people with these liberal tagging spree; same as you just said you're not right wing. Also, there's no political current nowadays that supports freedom and safety equally and unbiasedly, get real. Politics suck.

Általa írva RaulPB, 08.05.2017 at 17:47

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 17:39

Correct it answered your question. I am free to my opinion and I'm free to voice my opinion. Just because you grew up in the liberal sheep farm of western Europe doesn't make my opinion irrelevant plenty of americans Hells the americans who are most capable of getting shit done share many of my view points, but that doesn't make me right wing. I'm pro choice pro lgbt pro enviornmentalist. I support anything that allows people to do things in a free and safe matter in the persuite of happiness. But again it's my opinions.

Are you really calling western Europe to be liberal? Wow. You've clearly never been to Spain my friend... I invite you to come any time you want, my home is your home

Your opinion is not irrelevant, but neither is liberals' opinion, commies' opinion, anarchists' opinion, leftists's opinion, enviromentalists's opinion, etc. And the list goes on. But those are opinions. We need facts from time to time....

For real, what the heck do you think a liberal is? Is everyone in aw liberal or what....? Fuck sake, ask before tagging people with these liberal tagging spree; same as you just said you're not right wing. Also, there's no political current nowadays that supports freedom and safety equally and unbiasedly, get real. Politics suck.

A liberals definition is misconstrueded depending on where your from. A american definition for a liberal is someone who wishes to undermine concervitism at any cost no matter how badly it damages society. Someone who wishes to rip away any sign of individuality in a attempt to create a society without characteristics there for creating equality at the sake of free thought. Liberals are minipulative and hide there true agendas behind noble causes they really don't care about.

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 16:51

Általa írva Cheerfultitanic, 08.05.2017 at 16:48

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 16:46

Általa írva Khal.eesi, 08.05.2017 at 15:12

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 09:10

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 08:41

Általa írva Zephyrusu, 08.05.2017 at 07:13

Refugee panic is so idiotically hyperbolised... even if every single person in Syria moved to France (which will never happen) they still wouldn't be majority. Most current Muslims in France are Algerian.

Islam has a weird way of culture though, in the rest of the world culture impacts religion causing cultures with varying forms of religion. In islam it does it backwards and instead religion impacts culture, and causes religion with varying forms of culture. This causes a system where it doesn't matter if they are berbers or Syriac, they are muslims who are similare enough to cause the French majority to be subjugated. As is requested In the Qur'an. When in the minority seek peace with the infedel and prosper when in the majority demand that the unbeliever recognising only alah and alahs mercy.

Nice confirmation bias. Every other religion has impacted culture just like Islam.

This is obvious in America with the advent of national holidays such as Christmas and Easter and how being anything but Christain makes you inelligible for politics. In god we trust was added to money in the 20th century during the red scare. You are either blind or extremely dishonest to claim only Islam affects culture.

Nice confirmation bias too. I dont think he meant generally in history, rather in MODERN HISTORY meaning after ww2 or even 20th century. If you see the religiosity graphs and freedom index for Christian and Muslim countries over the years and decades, it becomes clear.

Christian nations become more and more secular, they do not interpret the bible literally, we accept people of all colours, genders, sexuality, religions and etc in the West. In the East NOT SO. Tell me one thing the christian church has the power to obstruct you to do, at this day and age. And i will tell you 20 things the muslim church has the power to execute you if you do.

You are full of shit and your islamophilia is disgusting, you are a
literal cuck.

1. You are constantly being obstructed from going into politics if you arent Christian. This is obvious with people making shit up about Obama being an athiest or a muslim to try to get him to lose.

2. The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was a clearly religious law that until recently, discriminated againsts gays. It defined a marriage as between one man and one woman and gave a legal basis to discriminate againsts gays.

3. You have a bunch of brainwashed religious sheep who obstruct laws allowing for more contraceptive freedom such as abortion.

4. Churches are so influential that they can actually get bullshit anti-science to be taught in schools so kids can grow up to be another sheep in their religion. You are seeing evolution taught as just a theory and such creationism is also being taught because it is just a "theory" too.

5. Many religious figures are very politically active and they play a huge role in decision making in the government.


I don't have islamophilia, it's called having fucking respect for people around the world. I can respect and tolerate my neighbor without loving them. How about you stop drinking the kool-aide about how letting arabs into your country is the death of it. I've never see Muslims try to impose their values on me or anyone I know.

All the people voting for anti immigration shills and policies such as Brexit or Marine Le Pen are voting for the collapse of NATO and the European Union. They are falling right into Russia's plan to destabilize the west. Putin is probably jerking off with the election of Trump and at brexit because it means a weaker
west.

ok first evolution is a sinking ship if you want ill list a few reasons why evolution is a false fucking
theory which shouldn't be taught in schools

Oh yes please enlighten us and also show us your nobel prizes and scientific accomplishments in debunking evolution.

k take the bombardier beetle, to defend itself it creates a mixture that has the perfect amount of ingredients which evolutionists say took many years to get right, well if they say it took many attempts to get right, the bombardier beetle uses very explosive ingredients to create the concotion, it would've literally blown itself out of existence, but evolutionists say it took many thousands of years to get right, plus if the Earth was really millions of years old there would be more helium in the atmosphere then there is today, aswell as the fact we are even here in the first place, now i believe life exists beyond Earth, but i find it extremely hard to believe that we humans came this way after millions of years, we show intelligent design, now potassium-argon dating for rocks showed 168 year old rocks a 3 million year old rocks, a 6000 year old earth theory is a better theory then a earth thats millions of years old, Its also outrageous to think we evolved from fucking frogs to humans, so hopefully your extremely simple minded brain comprehended what i said Thx.

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 17:55

A liberals definition is misconstrueded depending on where your from. A american definition for a liberal is someone who wishes to undermine concervitism at any cost no matter how badly it damages society. Someone who wishes to rip away any sign of individuality in a attempt to create a society without characteristics there for creating equality at the sake of free thought. Liberals are minipulative and hide there true agendas behind noble causes they really don't care about.

W.O.W. Check your closest dictionary again... you really are brainwashed by the media if that's your theoretical definition of liberal.

Általa írva Cheerfultitanic, 08.05.2017 at 17:58

I'll just go through the most interesting statements you made...

Általa írva Cheerfultitanic, 08.05.2017 at 17:58

there would be more helium

Oh.... really bruh? Why?

Általa írva Cheerfultitanic, 08.05.2017 at 17:58

potassium-argon dating for rocks showed 168 year old rocks a 3 million year old rocks

This sentence makes no grammatical sense.

Általa írva Cheerfultitanic, 08.05.2017 at 17:58

Its also outrageous to think we evolved from fucking frogs to humans

Ofc it is outrageous, cause we didn't. Frogs are amphibian creature, like our cousins, not our parents. We evolved from little bacteria.

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 18:37

Általa írva Cheerfultitanic, 08.05.2017 at 17:58

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 16:51

Általa írva Cheerfultitanic, 08.05.2017 at 16:48

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 16:46

Általa írva Khal.eesi, 08.05.2017 at 15:12

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 09:10

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 08:41

Általa írva Zephyrusu, 08.05.2017 at 07:13

Refugee panic is so idiotically hyperbolised... even if every single person in Syria moved to France (which will never happen) they still wouldn't be majority. Most current Muslims in France are Algerian.

Islam has a weird way of culture though, in the rest of the world culture impacts religion causing cultures with varying forms of religion. In islam it does it backwards and instead religion impacts culture, and causes religion with varying forms of culture. This causes a system where it doesn't matter if they are berbers or Syriac, they are muslims who are similare enough to cause the French majority to be subjugated. As is requested In the Qur'an. When in the minority seek peace with the infedel and prosper when in the majority demand that the unbeliever recognising only alah and alahs mercy.

Nice confirmation bias. Every other religion has impacted culture just like Islam.

This is obvious in America with the advent of national holidays such as Christmas and Easter and how being anything but Christain makes you inelligible for politics. In god we trust was added to money in the 20th century during the red scare. You are either blind or extremely dishonest to claim only Islam affects culture.

Nice confirmation bias too. I dont think he meant generally in history, rather in MODERN HISTORY meaning after ww2 or even 20th century. If you see the religiosity graphs and freedom index for Christian and Muslim countries over the years and decades, it becomes clear.

Christian nations become more and more secular, they do not interpret the bible literally, we accept people of all colours, genders, sexuality, religions and etc in the West. In the East NOT SO. Tell me one thing the christian church has the power to obstruct you to do, at this day and age. And i will tell you 20 things the muslim church has the power to execute you if you do.

You are full of shit and your islamophilia is disgusting, you are a
literal cuck.

1. You are constantly being obstructed from going into politics if you arent Christian. This is obvious with people making shit up about Obama being an athiest or a muslim to try to get him to lose.

2. The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was a clearly religious law that until recently, discriminated againsts gays. It defined a marriage as between one man and one woman and gave a legal basis to discriminate againsts gays.

3. You have a bunch of brainwashed religious sheep who obstruct laws allowing for more contraceptive freedom such as abortion.

4. Churches are so influential that they can actually get bullshit anti-science to be taught in schools so kids can grow up to be another sheep in their religion. You are seeing evolution taught as just a theory and such creationism is also being taught because it is just a "theory" too.

5. Many religious figures are very politically active and they play a huge role in decision making in the government.


I don't have islamophilia, it's called having fucking respect for people around the world. I can respect and tolerate my neighbor without loving them. How about you stop drinking the kool-aide about how letting arabs into your country is the death of it. I've never see Muslims try to impose their values on me or anyone I know.

All the people voting for anti immigration shills and policies such as Brexit or Marine Le Pen are voting for the collapse of NATO and the European Union. They are falling right into Russia's plan to destabilize the west. Putin is probably jerking off with the election of Trump and at brexit because it means a weaker
west.

ok first evolution is a sinking ship if you want ill list a few reasons why evolution is a false fucking
theory which shouldn't be taught in schools

Oh yes please enlighten us and also show us your nobel prizes and scientific accomplishments in debunking evolution.

k take the bombardier beetle, to defend itself it creates a mixture that has the perfect amount of ingredients which evolutionists say took many years to get right, well if they say it took many attempts to get right, the bombardier beetle uses very explosive ingredients to create the concotion, it would've literally blown itself out of existence, but evolutionists say it took many thousands of years to get right, plus if the Earth was really millions of years old there would be more helium in the atmosphere then there is today, aswell as the fact we are even here in the first place, now i believe life exists beyond Earth, but i find it extremely hard to believe that we humans came this way after millions of years, we show intelligent design, now potassium-argon dating for rocks showed 168 year old rocks a 3 million year old rocks, a 6000 year old earth theory is a better theory then a earth thats millions of years old, Its also outrageous to think we evolved from fucking frogs to humans, so hopefully your extremely simple minded brain comprehended what i said Thx.

First off, start by listing the accomplishments of creationists like you.

Then compare it to the accomplishments and scientific breakthroughs that were made possible by evolution.

If you can list more than science, I won't even argue and i'll trust you.

what scientific breakthroughs did evolution ever give..... XD say we came from monkeys with nothing to back them up???

Általa írva RaulPB, 08.05.2017 at 18:32

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 17:55

A liberals definition is misconstrueded depending on where your from. A american definition for a liberal is someone who wishes to undermine concervitism at any cost no matter how badly it damages society. Someone who wishes to rip away any sign of individuality in a attempt to create a society without characteristics there for creating equality at the sake of free thought. Liberals are minipulative and hide there true agendas behind noble causes they really don't care about.

W.O.W. Check your closest dictionary again... you really are brainwashed by the media if that's your theoretical definition of liberal.

I do not watch, read, or listen to anyone who is a part of the news industry, they are owned by globalists who push for a future without individuality or freedom.

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 19:10

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 18:50

Általa írva RaulPB, 08.05.2017 at 18:32

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 17:55

A liberals definition is misconstrueded depending on where your from. A american definition for a liberal is someone who wishes to undermine concervitism at any cost no matter how badly it damages society. Someone who wishes to rip away any sign of individuality in a attempt to create a society without characteristics there for creating equality at the sake of free thought. Liberals are minipulative and hide there true agendas behind noble causes they really don't care about.

W.O.W. Check your closest dictionary again... you really are brainwashed by the media if that's your theoretical definition of liberal.

I do not watch, read, or listen to anyone who is a part of the news industry, they are owned by globalists who push for a future without individuality or freedom.

Found the Russian's bitch. You want NATO disbanded, the EU disbanded, and "friendlier" relations with Russia. You are making our country weaker by doing exactly as the Russian want. If Reagan was alive today, people like you would have been purged.

The ussr is dead stop living in the past. Russia is a valuable ally to have.

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 18:50

I do not watch, read, or listen to anyone who is a part of the news industry, they are owned by globalists who push for a future without individuality or freedom.

Hm... then I've still got the same old question, where the heck do you get such a definition for liberals? And what would the difference be with conservatives or republicans? Liberal has no real meaning anymore, you're overexploiting that freaking word for your own interests and feelings

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 19:18

The ussr is dead stop living in the past. Russia is a valuable ally to have.

You know what is a valuable ally to have? Honesty, integrity, responsability, wisdom, etc.
Coincidentally, none of which anyone has lately. And Russia is no exception.

Általa írva RaulPB, 08.05.2017 at 19:57

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 18:50

I do not watch, read, or listen to anyone who is a part of the news industry, they are owned by globalists who push for a future without individuality or freedom.

Hm... then I've still got the same old question, where the heck do you get such a definition for liberals? And what would the difference with conservatives or republicans? Liberal has no real meaning anymore, you're overexploiting that freaking word for your own interests and feelings

Általa írva Helly, 08.05.2017 at 19:18

The ussr is dead stop living in the past. Russia is a valuable ally to have.

You know what is a vuable ally to have? Honesty, integrity, responsability, wisdom, etc.
Coincidentally, none of which anyone has lately. And Russia is no exception.

First part, as iv tried to explain before my sources are abstract. As in there is not a guy somewhere saying that this is how things are and I listen. Instead when a conflict arises, let's say something hypothetical. Donald Trump pays off Shia terror group for three us sailors captured in the Persian gulf. Instead of turning on the news and watching CNN call donald trump a terrorist enabler or go to fox and see how they spin there story if how it was neccassary, I instead go and read about the terrorists groups history. What kind of work the sailors where doing in the Gulf. Was the United states infringing on Iranian sovereignty, how much money we gave them, what policies where broken, was it worth it? What would I have done in the presidents shoes? And so on untill I can form an educated opinion on a subject. That is why I will never post a source because a source is just one humans opinion on a subject, which you may or may not deem credible so it's not really worth discussing. I rather do the research myself and form my own opinion on something rather then have someone else do it for me.

Secondly when you are in a den of wolves you either grow equally savage and survive or you starve, russia is no exception to these rules.

Republican is a party, conservitism is a ideology. Same as democrats and liberalism. Republican is a right wing party, conservitism is a right wing ideology. DemocRats is a left wing party and liberalism is a left wing ideology. I am a constitutional centrist Libertarian, which is another ideology all together. I believe the constitution should not be interpreted diferently then the meaning it was written on, which is a conservitive ideal. I believe in key issues on both sides of politics some examples are I am pro free market and anti out sourcing which are right wing. Aswell I believe in strict environmental conservation and freedom for all peoples, aswell lower tax rates on middle and lower income brackets and a 18% tax on anyone who makes over 500k a year. Those are left wing ideals. Which means I'm centrist as I don't lean left or right based on principle. Lastly a libertarian is diferent from a liberal in one key way, a liberals wants equality for the majority and a libertarian wants equality for the individual. Means I don't care what you are doing as long as it doesn't hurt me in some way. I hope that helps break things down a bit.

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 04:01

First part, as iv tried to explain before my sources are abstract. As in there is not a guy somewhere saying that this is how things are and I listen. Instead when a conflict arises, let's say something hypothetical. Donald Trump pays off Shia terror group for three us sailors captured in the Persian gulf. Instead of turning on the news and watching CNN call donald trump a terrorist enabler or go to fox and see how they spin there story if how it was neccassary, I instead go and read about the terrorists groups history. What kind of work the sailors where doing in the Gulf. Was the United states infringing on Iranian sovereignty, how much money we gave them, what policies where broken, was it worth it? What would I have done in the presidents shoes? And so on untill I can form an educated opinion on a subject. That is why I will never post a source because a source is just one humans opinion on a subject, which you may or may not deem credible so it's not really worth discussing. I rather do the research myself and form my own opinion on something rather then have someone else do it for me.

Secondly when you are in a den of wolves you either grow equally savage and survive or you starve, russia is no exception to these rules.

Republican is a party, conservitism is a ideology. Same as democrats and liberalism. Republican is a right wing party, conservitism is a right wing ideology. DemocRats is a left wing party and liberalism is a left wing ideology. I am a constitutional centrist Libertarian, which is another ideology all together. I believe the constitution should not be interpreted diferently then the meaning it was written on, which is a conservitive ideal. I believe in key issues on both sides of politics some examples are I am pro free market and anti out sourcing which are right wing. Aswell I believe in strict environmental conservation and freedom for all peoples, aswell lower tax rates on middle and lower income brackets and a 18% tax on anyone who makes over 500k a year. Those are left wing ideals. Which means I'm centrist as I don't lean left or right based on principle. Lastly a libertarian is diferent from a liberal in one key way, a liberals wants equality for the majority and a libertarian wants equality for the individual. Means I don't care what you are doing as long as it doesn't hurt me in some way. I hope that helps break things down a bit.

1st, if that's how you inform yourself, then calling every soul around aw a liberal fucktard is quite surrealistic from you.

2nd, I wasn't attacking Russia for being as much of an asshole as the rest of the world is, I'm just saying that they are dispensable as the rest of the world is.

3rd, do you realize that some of those aspects are relatively contradictory? Free market usually goes along with out sourcing and with enviroment harm since they do not care about our world. Also, the circunstances in which the constituon was written have changed, laws are not meant to be eternal but to be progressively improved and adapted to modern days if needed. I haven't fully read those either so I'm not really sure it has a conserative ideal behind it. Anyway, you've finally talked about liberalism in a more objective way without having to insult or undervalue anything.

Raul you are my hero you stopped quote cancer

This thread is hilarious and filled with rather ignorant stereotypes but hmm yeah..also Macron wasn't the best option, but sure was the best out of the dozen of candidates.

However, even if Le Pen didn't win in 2017, she'll win in the following years maybe..

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 16:46

I don't have islamophilia, it's called having fucking respect for people around the world. I can respect and tolerate my neighbor without loving them.

I know this is out of topic but could you start practising that with us too, your AW neighbours, pls?

Általa írva Zephyrusu, 09.05.2017 at 07:18

Raul you are my hero you stopped quote cancer

That's my job (I'd probably edit all their posts too if I could... it hurts my eyes)

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 16:46

1. You are constantly being obstructed from going into politics if you arent Christian. This is obvious with people making shit up about Obama being an athiest or a muslim to try to get him to lose.

This is because of the people, not the church

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 16:46

2. The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was a clearly religious law that until recently, discriminated againsts gays. It defined a marriage as between one man and one woman and gave a legal basis to discriminate againsts gays.

So basically it defined marriage as... what it is, how awful. Also politicians, not the church

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 16:46

3. You have a bunch of brainwashed religious sheep who obstruct laws allowing for more contraceptive freedom such as abortion.

Horrible that people don't want to murder the unborn, also, not the church, just people

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 16:46

4. Churches are so influential that they can actually get bullshit anti-science to be taught in schools so kids can grow up to be another sheep in their religion. You are seeing evolution taught as just a theory and such creationism is also being taught because it is just a "theory" too.

Evolution is just a theory, not saying I don't believe in it, but it still is just a theory

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 16:46

5. Many religious figures are very politically active and they play a huge role in decision making in the government.

how is that a problem? Why should someone be excluded from having their voice in the government heard if they live in that country just because they are a religious person?

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 08.05.2017 at 16:46

I don't have islamophilia,

of course you do, you cry all day about the church and don't say a word about islam and it's barbaric teachings

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 09.05.2017 at 11:42

ffs learn to quote

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 09.05.2017 at 11:42

I cry about the Christain churches because I consider it more relevant to my life than some minority religion.

>minority religion
No, you cry about the Christian churches because you're an immoral degenerate who's afraid of muslims. A billion people and the fastest growing in the US is not a minority religion, you sure don't care about tomorrow, or about people in other countries do you?

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 09.05.2017 at 11:42

You're expecting me to care about basically a non issue? I'm not gonma worry about what I do when I win the lottery because it wont happen. I wont worry about Muslims because I rarely interact with them at all.

this is the most ignorant statement on this whole forum, so basically you're saying as long as it doesn't happen to you you don't care, and then you'll start crying about it in twenty years when it is an issue for you and you'll be wishing the Christian church was still around

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 09.05.2017 at 11:42

But no... The logical answer you come up with is that I fucking love Muslims.
By that shitty logic, you love the KKK because I dont see you criticizing them while you criticize SJWs all the time.

I'll forgive you for this one since you haven't exactly been around here a while, but if you think I haven't criticized the KKK then you're just willfully ignorant

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 09.05.2017 at 11:42

How about instead of repeating rhetoric you saw on some shitty video or website, you think for yourself and stop being a dumbarsed sheep.

>I'm a dumb sheep
>you cry about the church's stance on gays and contraception while defending muslims who hold the same views albeit more violent and extreme while worshiping the political left
you're the literal definition of a hypocrite

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 09.05.2017 at 11:42

BTW learn what a scientific theory is peasant.

so you admit that it is a theory?

Glad we're on the same page on that one

Általa írva RaulPB, 09.05.2017 at 06:37

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 04:01

First part, as iv tried to explain before my sources are abstract. As in there is not a guy somewhere saying that this is how things are and I listen. Instead when a conflict arises, let's say something hypothetical. Donald Trump pays off Shia terror group for three us sailors captured in the Persian gulf. Instead of turning on the news and watching CNN call donald trump a terrorist enabler or go to fox and see how they spin there story if how it was neccassary, I instead go and read about the terrorists groups history. What kind of work the sailors where doing in the Gulf. Was the United states infringing on Iranian sovereignty, how much money we gave them, what policies where broken, was it worth it? What would I have done in the presidents shoes? And so on untill I can form an educated opinion on a subject. That is why I will never post a source because a source is just one humans opinion on a subject, which you may or may not deem credible so it's not really worth discussing. I rather do the research myself and form my own opinion on something rather then have someone else do it for me.

Secondly when you are in a den of wolves you either grow equally savage and survive or you starve, russia is no exception to these rules.

Republican is a party, conservitism is a ideology. Same as democrats and liberalism. Republican is a right wing party, conservitism is a right wing ideology. DemocRats is a left wing party and liberalism is a left wing ideology. I am a constitutional centrist Libertarian, which is another ideology all together. I believe the constitution should not be interpreted diferently then the meaning it was written on, which is a conservitive ideal. I believe in key issues on both sides of politics some examples are I am pro free market and anti out sourcing which are right wing. Aswell I believe in strict environmental conservation and freedom for all peoples, aswell lower tax rates on middle and lower income brackets and a 18% tax on anyone who makes over 500k a year. Those are left wing ideals. Which means I'm centrist as I don't lean left or right based on principle. Lastly a libertarian is diferent from a liberal in one key way, a liberals wants equality for the majority and a libertarian wants equality for the individual. Means I don't care what you are doing as long as it doesn't hurt me in some way. I hope that helps break things down a bit.

1st, if that's how you inform yourself, then calling every soul around aw a liberal fucktard is quite surrealistic from you.

2nd, I wasn't attacking Russia for being as much of an asshole as the rest of the world is, I'm just saying that they are dispensable as the rest of the world is.

3rd, do you realize that some of those aspects are relatively contradictory? Free market usually goes along with out sourcing and with enviroment harm since they do not care about our world. Also, the circunstances in which the constituon was written have changed, laws are not meant to be eternal but to be progressively improved and adapted to modern days if needed. I haven't fully read those either so I'm not really sure it has a conserative ideal behind it. Anyway, you've finally talked about liberalism in a more objective way without having to insult or undervalue anything.

Free market is diferent then free trade, I think your confusing the two.Also that is an opinion on laws not a fact, that's why I said my opinion on the constitution is right wing conservitism.As for how I go about a conversation it totally depends on who I'm talking to. You are respectful so I am respectful, which doctor is a cut so therefor I to am a cunt.

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 09.05.2017 at 13:24

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 12:50

Általa írva RaulPB, 09.05.2017 at 06:37

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 04:01

First part, as iv tried to explain before my sources are abstract. As in there is not a guy somewhere saying that this is how things are and I listen. Instead when a conflict arises, let's say something hypothetical. Donald Trump pays off Shia terror group for three us sailors captured in the Persian gulf. Instead of turning on the news and watching CNN call donald trump a terrorist enabler or go to fox and see how they spin there story if how it was neccassary, I instead go and read about the terrorists groups history. What kind of work the sailors where doing in the Gulf. Was the United states infringing on Iranian sovereignty, how much money we gave them, what policies where broken, was it worth it? What would I have done in the presidents shoes? And so on untill I can form an educated opinion on a subject. That is why I will never post a source because a source is just one humans opinion on a subject, which you may or may not deem credible so it's not really worth discussing. I rather do the research myself and form my own opinion on something rather then have someone else do it for me.

Secondly when you are in a den of wolves you either grow equally savage and survive or you starve, russia is no exception to these rules.

Republican is a party, conservitism is a ideology. Same as democrats and liberalism. Republican is a right wing party, conservitism is a right wing ideology. DemocRats is a left wing party and liberalism is a left wing ideology. I am a constitutional centrist Libertarian, which is another ideology all together. I believe the constitution should not be interpreted diferently then the meaning it was written on, which is a conservitive ideal. I believe in key issues on both sides of politics some examples are I am pro free market and anti out sourcing which are right wing. Aswell I believe in strict environmental conservation and freedom for all peoples, aswell lower tax rates on middle and lower income brackets and a 18% tax on anyone who makes over 500k a year. Those are left wing ideals. Which means I'm centrist as I don't lean left or right based on principle. Lastly a libertarian is diferent from a liberal in one key way, a liberals wants equality for the majority and a libertarian wants equality for the individual. Means I don't care what you are doing as long as it doesn't hurt me in some way. I hope that helps break things down a bit.

1st, if that's how you inform yourself, then calling every soul around aw a liberal fucktard is quite surrealistic from you.

2nd, I wasn't attacking Russia for being as much of an asshole as the rest of the world is, I'm just saying that they are dispensable as the rest of the world is.

3rd, do you realize that some of those aspects are relatively contradictory? Free market usually goes along with out sourcing and with enviroment harm since they do not care about our world. Also, the circunstances in which the constituon was written have changed, laws are not meant to be eternal but to be progressively improved and adapted to modern days if needed. I haven't fully read those either so I'm not really sure it has a conserative ideal behind it. Anyway, you've finally talked about liberalism in a more objective way without having to insult or undervalue anything.

Free market is diferent then free trade, I think your confusing the two.Also that is an opinion on laws not a fact, that's why I said my opinion on the constitution is right wing conservitism.As for how I go

about a conversation it totally depends on who I'm talking to. You are respectful so I am respectful, which doctor is a cut so therefor I to am a cunt.

So care to explain why you keep ignoring the constant tax cuts to the rich by republicans? The rich arent going to put that money back into the economy.

Iv explained before your just not listening. A tax hike is aweful yes, but it isn't as bad as the left trying to fundementally change society to create a entire generation of pc drones who have to backbone. I always argue about my distaste for the left because there goal effect me more. The right is doing what they have always done, ands it's a whole lot of barely anything.

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 12:50

Free market is diferent then free trade, I think your confusing the two.Also that is an opinion on laws not a fact, that's why I said my opinion on the constitution is right wing conservitism.As for how I go about a conversation it totally depends on who I'm talking to. You are respectful so I am respectful, which doctor is a cut so therefor I to am a cunt.

Why should someone be conservative about a constitution written +100 years ago if it can be improved and tweaked into describing much better the current situation and needs from the people? All laws change with time due to different needs, what is it about the constitution exactly that makes it an exception?

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 13:41

but it isn't as bad as the left trying to fundementally change society to create a entire generation of pc drones who have to backbone

I beg to differ, right wing wants the exact same thing, but in their interest.

Általa írva RaulPB, 09.05.2017 at 13:45

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 12:50

Free market is diferent then free trade, I think your confusing the two.Also that is an opinion on laws not a fact, that's why I said my opinion on the constitution is right wing conservitism.As for how I go about a conversation it totally depends on who I'm talking to. You are respectful so I am respectful, which doctor is a cut so therefor I to am a cunt.

Why should someone be conservative about a constitution written +100 years ago if it can be improved and tweaked into describing much better the current situation and needs from the people? All laws change with time due to different needs, what is it about the constitution exactly that makes it an exception?

Because our government is corrupted and will not improve or tweak it to improve quality of life instead they would use it to strip us of our freedom and gain more power. The constitution is the ultimate defence against corruption as long as we tell the government it isn't up for editing.

Általa írva RaulPB, 09.05.2017 at 13:45

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 12:50

Free market is diferent then free trade, I think your confusing the two.Also that is an opinion on laws not a fact, that's why I said my opinion on the constitution is right wing conservitism.As for how I go about a conversation it totally depends on who I'm talking to. You are respectful so I am respectful, which doctor is a cut so therefor I to am a cunt.

Why should someone be conservative about a constitution written +100 years ago if it can be improved and tweaked into describing much better the current situation and needs from the people? All laws change with time due to different needs, what is it about the constitution exactly that makes it an exception?

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 13:41

but it isn't as bad as the left trying to fundementally change society to create a entire generation of pc drones who have to backbone

I beg to differ, right wing wants the exact same thing, but in their interest.

The right is ego centric and locked in a eternal power struggle with itself. They are not capable of perusing there interests.

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 09.05.2017 at 13:21

Also, evolution is a fact. People like you have yet to debunk it because you're too stupid or lazy to actually do any work.

Holy shit you're stupid, I'm not saying it's not, I know that it's true, but regardless of that, it is still a theory, that is a fact

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 09.05.2017 at 13:21

Since you're slighty stupid

boy I never thought someone could be even more intolerable than commando

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 09.05.2017 at 13:21

garbage

it's like talking to a wall

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 13:54

Because our government is corrupted and will not improve or tweak it to improve quality of life instead they would use it to strip us of our freedom and gain more power. The constitution is the ultimate defence against corruption as long as we tell the government it isn't up for editing.

Then it's time to claim back the power of the people. Isn't that kind of what the constitution is all about? I'd say they already have most of the power there is to have (not politicians, but banks which are supported by politicians, they are just mere puppets)

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 13:58

The right is ego centric and locked in a eternal power struggle with itself. They are not capable of perusing there interests.

Huh? Then how do you explain the new healthcare system being pushed by Trump? I do think they are capable of persuing their interests and that's what they are trying right now. That's what it seems at least. But yeah, agreed about being egocentric

Általa írva RaulPB, 09.05.2017 at 15:30

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 13:54

Because our government is corrupted and will not improve or tweak it to improve quality of life instead they would use it to strip us of our freedom and gain more power. The constitution is the ultimate defence against corruption as long as we tell the government it isn't up for editing.

Then it's time to claim back the power of the people. Isn't that kind of what the constitution is all about? I'd say they already have most of the power there is to have (not politicians, but banks which are supported by politicians, they are just mere puppets)

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 13:58

The right is ego centric and locked in a eternal power struggle with itself. They are not capable of perusing there interests.

Huh? Then how do you explain the new healthcare system being pushed by Trump? I do think they are capable of persuing their interests and that's what they are trying right now. That's what it seems at least. But yeah, agreed about being egocentric

It was a private market before obama, the dems opened the health care vault for them.

Általa írva Viruslegion, 09.05.2017 at 14:03

Általa írva Witch-Doctor, 09.05.2017 at 13:21

Also, evolution is a fact. People like you have yet to debunk it because you're too stupid or lazy to actually do any work.

Holy shit you're stupid, I'm not saying it's not, I know that it's true, but regardless of that, it is still a theory, that is a fact

To be fair, a fact can not be a theory at the same time or viceversa... therefor you can either consider it a theory or a fact but not both. I'm not really sure if it still is considered a theory instead of a fact.

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 15:42

It was a private market before obama, the dems opened the health care vault for them.

Is that what you consider obamacare/healthcare to be? a business?

Általa írva RaulPB, 09.05.2017 at 16:01

Általa írva Helly, 09.05.2017 at 15:42

It was a private market before obama, the dems opened the health care vault for them.

Is that what you consider obamacare/healthcare to be? a business?

Entirely before you could choose now every one must or be fined into poverty. It increased health insurance companies profits.