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Küldte Elijah, 13.01.2018 - 15:46
In the past few months, more and more people have been complaining about Hateful Eight members rigging games. I have also been told by several parties that The Hateful Eight wants my map to fail, and they generally gangbang and fail to play by the rules. This of course is not true of all members of this clan, but today a player rogued me, stated he hated my clan, and said "glory to the hateful eight". Some may claim that I want this clan to fall apart, this is not the case. Others may claim I am a puppet of the Imperial Union, that is sort of true.

What I want is for dialogue to open, to figure out what the H8's interests are, and to ensure my map can be played without coalitions rigging games. The large majority of the people I banned as of late will probably be unbanned, and things will hopefully return to something that is somewhat normal. I have not ignored any of the people I banned, so I can assure I will be getting spammed. Thank you for reading this, and sorry for the lack of fluidity in this message.

Edit: I have now un-banned the people that I banned simply for being in the Hateful Eight.
13.01.2018 - 17:22
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I love u elijah
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13.01.2018 - 18:15
Damn you scenarioplayers take drama to another level.
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Általa írva Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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13.01.2018 - 18:21
Általa írva Waffel, 13.01.2018 at 18:15

Damn you scenarioplayers take drama to another level.

yeah, ik
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13.01.2018 - 18:29
@elijah
IMO the reason HATE does that to you is because the imperial union abuses it's authority.
I was never involved in ATWAR politics until King Alois slapped a ban to my entire clan and labeled us "a clan that attempts to troll/ruin games"(you once were a part of my clan.)

Who is KING ALIOS to label players trolls/game failers???I can say the same about King Alois.

tldr; Elijah, king alios has single-handedely ruined atwar for players, and made it un-enjoyable. I haven't played your map since he banned me for no reason, I no longer play atwar with my friends, my friends have all been banned or labelled trolls too.
The Imperial Union does not allow for due process, does not allow you to confront your accuser, and does not uphold your innocence until proven guilty.
The Imperial Union does not look at the bigger picture, does not have standards for evidence.
The Imperial Union uses it's power over you and your map as a weapon in clan politics.

Elijah ily, but, king alios should not determine whether or not a diehard RP'er from 2012, who actually roleplays, is a troll.
If only the staff team would listen to the players about how much the imperial union has ruined this game for others.........................
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13.01.2018 - 18:47
Xanax, I am sorry to hear that you were unjustly banned. You did exactly what I hoped someone would do. The IU is flawed, and it doesn't want to ruin games for others. When things go tit for tat there is collateral damage, which is wrong. We need greater transparency, especially in the IU. I hope you can talk to whoever you need to to get your ban resolved.

Peace and Love, Elijah
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13.01.2018 - 18:54
Általa írva Xanxth, 13.01.2018 at 18:29

@elijah
IMO the reason HATE does that to you is because the imperial union abuses it's authority.
I was never involved in ATWAR politics until King Alois slapped a ban to my entire clan and labeled us "a clan that attempts to troll/ruin games"(you once were a part of my clan.)

Who is KING ALIOS to label players trolls/game failers???I can say the same about King Alois.

tldr; Elijah, king alios has single-handedely ruined atwar for players, and made it un-enjoyable. I haven't played your map since he banned me for no reason, I no longer play atwar with my friends, my friends have all been banned or labelled trolls too.
The Imperial Union does not allow for due process, does not allow you to confront your accuser, and does not uphold your innocence until proven guilty.
The Imperial Union does not look at the bigger picture, does not have standards for evidence.
The Imperial Union uses it's power over you and your map as a weapon in clan politics.

Elijah ily, but, king alios should not determine whether or not a diehard RP'er from 2012, who actually roleplays, is a troll.
If only the staff team would listen to the players about how much the imperial union has ruined this game for others.........................


they slap a ban on anyone who doesn't submit to their little online fantasies of owning a secret government
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13.01.2018 - 18:56
Általa írva Elijah, 13.01.2018 at 18:47

Xanax, I am sorry to hear that you were unjustly banned. You did exactly what I hoped someone would do. The IU is flawed, and it doesn't want to ruin games for others. When things go tit for tat there is collateral damage, which is wrong. We need greater transparency, especially in the IU. I hope you can talk to whoever you need to to get your ban resolved.

Peace and Love, Elijah


He was banned with a fair ban. The moderators agreed with us, and he's crying. That's all.
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13.01.2018 - 18:58
Általa írva Elijah, 13.01.2018 at 18:47

Xanax, I am sorry to hear that you were unjustly banned. You did exactly what I hoped someone would do. The IU is flawed, and it doesn't want to ruin games for others. When things go tit for tat there is collateral damage, which is wrong. We need greater transparency, especially in the IU. I hope you can talk to whoever you need to to get your ban resolved.

Peace and Love, Elijah

I have zero faith in the IU to resolve my ban. I tried contacting my "friends"(adog and King Alios), turns out they werent friends at all. After a few months of nothing happening, some staff realized that I was being unjustly persecuted, and unbanned me(twice). The IU really live up to their name as queens and kings and wont listen to anyone but themselves.......
For anyone hoping to resolve matters with the IU through dialouge think again.




I really wish the staff team would take more initiative, and look behind the scenes, between the lines. Sometimes things don't constitute a violation of the rules, but shouldn't EVERYONE be able to enjoy atwar, equally? No one person or group should be able to ruin the atwar(or roleplay) experience for any one person or whole group of people.
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13.01.2018 - 19:00
Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 18:54

Általa írva Xanxth, 13.01.2018 at 18:29

@elijah
IMO the reason HATE does that to you is because the imperial union abuses it's authority.
I was never involved in ATWAR politics until King Alois slapped a ban to my entire clan and labeled us "a clan that attempts to troll/ruin games"(you once were a part of my clan.)

Who is KING ALIOS to label players trolls/game failers???I can say the same about King Alois.

tldr; Elijah, king alios has single-handedely ruined atwar for players, and made it un-enjoyable. I haven't played your map since he banned me for no reason, I no longer play atwar with my friends, my friends have all been banned or labelled trolls too.
The Imperial Union does not allow for due process, does not allow you to confront your accuser, and does not uphold your innocence until proven guilty.
The Imperial Union does not look at the bigger picture, does not have standards for evidence.
The Imperial Union uses it's power over you and your map as a weapon in clan politics.

Elijah ily, but, king alios should not determine whether or not a diehard RP'er from 2012, who actually roleplays, is a troll.
If only the staff team would listen to the players about how much the imperial union has ruined this game for others.........................


they slap a ban on anyone who doesn't submit to their little online fantasies of owning a secret government


More like ban players that intentionally fail games to fulfill their fantasy of ending a fantasy government. If someone does not like the IU that's perfectly fine, but there is a difference between not liking someone and actively trying to ruin other people's gameplay.

IU
Caption: " I really just don't want to join you guys"

Me:
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13.01.2018 - 19:00
Általa írva Xanxth, 13.01.2018 at 18:58

...some staff realized that I was being unjustly persecuted, and unbanned me(twice).


No one has unbanned you.

Moderators agreed with us, otherwise the ban wouldn't be standing.
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13.01.2018 - 19:01
Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 18:54


they slap a ban on anyone who doesn't submit to their little online fantasies of owning a secret government



So banning trolls and rule twisters and breakers is something that must not be done? Stop being hypocritical and don't dodge when you get quoted in other things.

Also stop being edgy about everything, it's annoying and distorts the truth.
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13.01.2018 - 19:01
Általa írva Professor Adog, 13.01.2018 at 18:56


He was banned with a fair ban. The moderators agreed with us, and he's crying. That's all.

ive played since 2012 and have never intentionally ruined a RP. My game history speaks for itself........
All you have done is ruined the game for me. If you guys can't see that me playing over 100 5 hour RP's speaks for itself.




There are so many damn accusations against the imperial union, so many complaints, and so much iffy, shabby evidence provided by yall. The staff should see the damn persecution.
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13.01.2018 - 19:02
Https://prnt.sc/i02fpc http://prntscr.com/i042wp why'd Alois crop this out?
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13.01.2018 - 19:04
Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 19:02

Https://prnt.sc/i02fpc http://prntscr.com/i042wp why'd Alois crop this out?


Another evidence of you distorting facts and being edgy, but it's okay, It's handled.
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13.01.2018 - 19:04
Általa írva Xanxth, 13.01.2018 at 19:01

Általa írva Professor Adog, 13.01.2018 at 18:56


He was banned with a fair ban. The moderators agreed with us, and he's crying. That's all.

ive played since 2012 and have never intentionally ruined a RP. My game history speaks for itself........
All you have done is ruined the game for me. If you guys can't see that me playing over 100 5 hour RP's speaks for itself.


Moderators endorsed our ban. Stop crying.
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13.01.2018 - 19:04
Általa írva Xanxth, 13.01.2018 at 18:29

@elijah
IMO the reason HATE does that to you is because the imperial union abuses it's authority.
I was never involved in ATWAR politics until King Alois slapped a ban to my entire clan and labeled us "a clan that attempts to troll/ruin games"(you once were a part of my clan.)

Who is KING ALIOS to label players trolls/game failers???I can say the same about King Alois.

tldr; Elijah, king alios has single-handedely ruined atwar for players, and made it un-enjoyable. I haven't played your map since he banned me for no reason, I no longer play atwar with my friends, my friends have all been banned or labelled trolls too.
The Imperial Union does not allow for due process, does not allow you to confront your accuser, and does not uphold your innocence until proven guilty.
The Imperial Union does not look at the bigger picture, does not have standards for evidence.
The Imperial Union uses it's power over you and your map as a weapon in clan politics.

Elijah ily, but, king alios should not determine whether or not a diehard RP'er from 2012, who actually roleplays, is a troll.
If only the staff team would listen to the players about how much the imperial union has ruined this game for others.........................



When did I ban your "entire" clan? lmfao.
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13.01.2018 - 19:05
Általa írva Al Fappino, 13.01.2018 at 19:04

Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 19:02

Https://prnt.sc/i02fpc http://prntscr.com/i042wp why'd Alois crop this out?


Another evidence of you distorting facts and being edgy, but it's okay, It's handled.


how have i distorted facts? explain
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13.01.2018 - 19:06
Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 18:54

Általa írva Xanxth, 13.01.2018 at 18:29

@elijah
IMO the reason HATE does that to you is because the imperial union abuses it's authority.
I was never involved in ATWAR politics until King Alois slapped a ban to my entire clan and labeled us "a clan that attempts to troll/ruin games"(you once were a part of my clan.)

Who is KING ALIOS to label players trolls/game failers???I can say the same about King Alois.

tldr; Elijah, king alios has single-handedely ruined atwar for players, and made it un-enjoyable. I haven't played your map since he banned me for no reason, I no longer play atwar with my friends, my friends have all been banned or labelled trolls too.
The Imperial Union does not allow for due process, does not allow you to confront your accuser, and does not uphold your innocence until proven guilty.
The Imperial Union does not look at the bigger picture, does not have standards for evidence.
The Imperial Union uses it's power over you and your map as a weapon in clan politics.

Elijah ily, but, king alios should not determine whether or not a diehard RP'er from 2012, who actually roleplays, is a troll.
If only the staff team would listen to the players about how much the imperial union has ruined this game for others.........................


they slap a ban on anyone who doesn't submit to their little online fantasies of owning a secret government



I wouldn't be speaking. I've heard about the council's you use to have.


Also does RP not stand for RolePlay anymore, or what mate?
If you dont want to be part of it, move into a different community. Jesus christ.
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13.01.2018 - 19:11
Általa írva Alois, 13.01.2018 at 19:04

When did I ban your "entire" clan? lmfao.

about 3 months ago you slapped a ban on ZV for "being a member of a coaltion that attempts to troll or ruin games"............ bc syndicalst pact is allied.... sorry not my entire clan, you tried recruiting me unsuccessfully, but you recruited president carter successfully.
Everyone knows that i dont intentionally troll or ruin games. Your evidence is cropped and not a full picture therefore null and void imo. 7 years of trolling and ruining games. sure............




NO, YOU MOVE TO A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY. keep ruining the game for people
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13.01.2018 - 19:16
Általa írva Alois, 13.01.2018 at 19:06

Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 18:54

Általa írva Xanxth, 13.01.2018 at 18:29

@elijah
IMO the reason HATE does that to you is because the imperial union abuses it's authority.
I was never involved in ATWAR politics until King Alois slapped a ban to my entire clan and labeled us "a clan that attempts to troll/ruin games"(you once were a part of my clan.)

Who is KING ALIOS to label players trolls/game failers???I can say the same about King Alois.

tldr; Elijah, king alios has single-handedely ruined atwar for players, and made it un-enjoyable. I haven't played your map since he banned me for no reason, I no longer play atwar with my friends, my friends have all been banned or labelled trolls too.
The Imperial Union does not allow for due process, does not allow you to confront your accuser, and does not uphold your innocence until proven guilty.
The Imperial Union does not look at the bigger picture, does not have standards for evidence.
The Imperial Union uses it's power over you and your map as a weapon in clan politics.

Elijah ily, but, king alios should not determine whether or not a diehard RP'er from 2012, who actually roleplays, is a troll.
If only the staff team would listen to the players about how much the imperial union has ruined this game for others.........................


they slap a ban on anyone who doesn't submit to their little online fantasies of owning a secret government



I wouldn't be speaking. I've heard about the council's you use to have.


Also does RP not stand for RolePlay anymore, or what mate?
If you dont want to be part of it, move into a different community. Jesus christ.


theres a difference between rp'ing and actively ruining RP for anyone who isn't in your little club.
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13.01.2018 - 19:18
Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 19:02

Https://prnt.sc/i02fpc http://prntscr.com/i042wp why'd Alois crop this out?



Also, It's your plan to change shit.

Again, how did Vertiven know YOU banned him? Hm? Like INSTANTLY he knew you banned him.
Why is that?
It's your former member giving information to whoever he wants, he even said it publicly.


Also let's not forget what you sent us publicly. Because this was either on Vertiven's account or yours. Which one is it? Can we see the whole message, heh?


Not to lie or anything though, but then why did Vertiven remove his messages stating your crap in PMs on discord? He didn't send me anything but he did send Fappino something. Of which he removed as soon as you sent me this screen shot.
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13.01.2018 - 19:18
Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 19:16

theres a difference between rp'ing and actively ruining RP for anyone who isn't in your little club.

seriously just leave the people who dont want to be a part of your union alone
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13.01.2018 - 19:20
Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 19:16

Általa írva Alois, 13.01.2018 at 19:06

Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 18:54

Általa írva Xanxth, 13.01.2018 at 18:29

@elijah
IMO the reason HATE does that to you is because the imperial union abuses it's authority.
I was never involved in ATWAR politics until King Alois slapped a ban to my entire clan and labeled us "a clan that attempts to troll/ruin games"(you once were a part of my clan.)

Who is KING ALIOS to label players trolls/game failers???I can say the same about King Alois.

tldr; Elijah, king alios has single-handedely ruined atwar for players, and made it un-enjoyable. I haven't played your map since he banned me for no reason, I no longer play atwar with my friends, my friends have all been banned or labelled trolls too.
The Imperial Union does not allow for due process, does not allow you to confront your accuser, and does not uphold your innocence until proven guilty.
The Imperial Union does not look at the bigger picture, does not have standards for evidence.
The Imperial Union uses it's power over you and your map as a weapon in clan politics.

Elijah ily, but, king alios should not determine whether or not a diehard RP'er from 2012, who actually roleplays, is a troll.
If only the staff team would listen to the players about how much the imperial union has ruined this game for others.........................


they slap a ban on anyone who doesn't submit to their little online fantasies of owning a secret government



I wouldn't be speaking. I've heard about the council's you use to have.


Also does RP not stand for RolePlay anymore, or what mate?
If you dont want to be part of it, move into a different community. Jesus christ.


theres a difference between rp'ing and actively ruining RP for anyone who isn't in your little club.


When have we done that?
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13.01.2018 - 19:21
Lol this thread has to have made some sort of record, like most posts in first day.
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13.01.2018 - 19:21
Általa írva Xanxth, 13.01.2018 at 19:18

Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 19:16

theres a difference between rp'ing and actively ruining RP for anyone who isn't in your little club.

seriously just leave the people who dont want to be a part of your union alone


When have we banned for "not being part of our union"?? prove it!
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13.01.2018 - 19:21
Általa írva Elijah, 13.01.2018 at 19:21

Lol this thread has to have made some sort of record, like most posts in first day.


Nah, this is mild. I remember like 200 posts or more in a day xD
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13.01.2018 - 19:22
Általa írva Alois, 13.01.2018 at 19:18

Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 19:02

Https://prnt.sc/i02fpc http://prntscr.com/i042wp why'd Alois crop this out?



Also, It's your plan to change shit.

Again, how did Vertiven know YOU banned him? Hm? Like INSTANTLY he knew you banned him.
Why is that?
It's your former member giving information to whoever he wants, he even said it publicly.


Also let's not forget what you sent us publicly. Because this was either on Vertiven's account or yours. Which one is it? Can we see the whole message, heh?


Not to lie or anything though, but then why did Vertiven remove his messages stating your crap in PMs on discord? He didn't send me anything but he did send Fappino something. Of which he removed as soon as you sent me this screen shot.


I banned him what? I spoke with a mod who saw what vertiven said and he was banned? what the fuck are you trying to say lol? that i have leverage over mods? fucking stupid the mod saw what vertiven said and it was against the rules, also i have never given out my address to vertiven.
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13.01.2018 - 19:23
Általa írva Alois, 13.01.2018 at 19:20

Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 19:16

Általa írva Alois, 13.01.2018 at 19:06

Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 18:54

Általa írva Xanxth, 13.01.2018 at 18:29

@elijah
IMO the reason HATE does that to you is because the imperial union abuses it's authority.
I was never involved in ATWAR politics until King Alois slapped a ban to my entire clan and labeled us "a clan that attempts to troll/ruin games"(you once were a part of my clan.)

Who is KING ALIOS to label players trolls/game failers???I can say the same about King Alois.

tldr; Elijah, king alios has single-handedely ruined atwar for players, and made it un-enjoyable. I haven't played your map since he banned me for no reason, I no longer play atwar with my friends, my friends have all been banned or labelled trolls too.
The Imperial Union does not allow for due process, does not allow you to confront your accuser, and does not uphold your innocence until proven guilty.
The Imperial Union does not look at the bigger picture, does not have standards for evidence.
The Imperial Union uses it's power over you and your map as a weapon in clan politics.

Elijah ily, but, king alios should not determine whether or not a diehard RP'er from 2012, who actually roleplays, is a troll.
If only the staff team would listen to the players about how much the imperial union has ruined this game for others.........................


they slap a ban on anyone who doesn't submit to their little online fantasies of owning a secret government



I wouldn't be speaking. I've heard about the council's you use to have.


Also does RP not stand for RolePlay anymore, or what mate?
If you dont want to be part of it, move into a different community. Jesus christ.


theres a difference between rp'ing and actively ruining RP for anyone who isn't in your little club.


When have we done that?


banning all H8 members... banning all ZV members that time... jesus
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13.01.2018 - 19:24
Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 19:22

Általa írva Alois, 13.01.2018 at 19:18

Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 19:02

Https://prnt.sc/i02fpc http://prntscr.com/i042wp why'd Alois crop this out?



Also, It's your plan to change shit.

Again, how did Vertiven know YOU banned him? Hm? Like INSTANTLY he knew you banned him.
Why is that?
It's your former member giving information to whoever he wants, he even said it publicly.


Also let's not forget what you sent us publicly. Because this was either on Vertiven's account or yours. Which one is it? Can we see the whole message, heh?


Not to lie or anything though, but then why did Vertiven remove his messages stating your crap in PMs on discord? He didn't send me anything but he did send Fappino something. Of which he removed as soon as you sent me this screen shot.


I banned him what? I spoke with a mod who saw what vertiven said and he was banned? what the fuck are you trying to say lol? that i have leverage over mods? fucking stupid the mod saw what vertiven said and it was against the rules, also i have never given out my address to vertiven.


Well if you read it properly you'd see I accused you being on Vert's account because of the information given and stated. Also, then how did he know? Because he just joined AG and we don't know your address.
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13.01.2018 - 19:25
Általa írva Alois, 13.01.2018 at 19:24

Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 19:22

Általa írva Alois, 13.01.2018 at 19:18

Általa írva Aelius, 13.01.2018 at 19:02

Https://prnt.sc/i02fpc http://prntscr.com/i042wp why'd Alois crop this out?



Also, It's your plan to change shit.

Again, how did Vertiven know YOU banned him? Hm? Like INSTANTLY he knew you banned him.
Why is that?
It's your former member giving information to whoever he wants, he even said it publicly.


Also let's not forget what you sent us publicly. Because this was either on Vertiven's account or yours. Which one is it? Can we see the whole message, heh?


Not to lie or anything though, but then why did Vertiven remove his messages stating your crap in PMs on discord? He didn't send me anything but he did send Fappino something. Of which he removed as soon as you sent me this screen shot.


I banned him what? I spoke with a mod who saw what vertiven said and he was banned? what the fuck are you trying to say lol? that i have leverage over mods? fucking stupid the mod saw what vertiven said and it was against the rules, also i have never given out my address to vertiven.


Well if you read it properly you'd see I accused you being on Vert's account because of the information given and stated. Also, then how did he know? Because he just joined AG and we don't know your address.


you don't know my address? you sure about that
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